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  1. Steve

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    I'm intentionally avoiding any comment on the politics, etc, of F1 in Bahrain, but this is different IMO as it's down to actual safety issues encountered by one of the teams. If you haven't been following along, the protest mentioned here experienced by Force India crew members included a molotov exploding near their car. A few members left the country after this and the team elected to skip a practice session yesterday so they could travel from the track in daylight. Muppet Head Bernie hurried down to "express his concern" while they were packing up and speculation is he threatened some sort of penalty. No one involved will admit anything but here's the first sign (also discussed by Speed announcers during the quali broadcast).

    Force India not shown on TV in qualifying (GPUpdate.net)
     
  2. Minidave

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    Yes, but let's talk about what's really important - a Red Bull on Pole - and it's Vettel!

    Could we have yet another team in the winner's circle again this weekend?
     
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    Yep, 4 teams on pole in 4 races, but the big player this year is tire management post-quali and from the sound of it the temps and abrasive track surface will make tires an even bigger factor this round. Frustrating for the engineers, potentially entertaining for the rest of us.

    Stepping away from tires, I'm curious to see whether Vettel will be able to pull out that plus 1-sec gap in the first few laps like last year before DRS is enabled.

    Fingers crossed for another good race. :Thumbsup:
     
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    Looking at the grid, I'm just hoping it won't be last years' races in rerun. Looks awfully familiar in that lineup....
     
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    Well for everyone who commented on what a fantastic race the last one was, I pointed out repeatedly that it was exactly like last year, just a different guy leading.

    All the action happened from 2nd on back.....from that perspective it was fantastic. but the race win was almost a forgone conclusion after the first lap, barring a wheel coming off his car.

    Is Schumi ever going to have any good luck this season?
     
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    The difference between last week and last year is that instead of watching the "battle for 14th, it was a battle of extremely equally matched cars for Second. I think Nico only got so far ahead because Shumi gave him a lead and tied everyone up, whether that was intentional, or not is debatable. It probably wasn't intentional, but it nevertheless affected the entire race. It wasn't a case where the car and driver were so far ahead of the curve in terms of performance that no one else had a chance.

    Last year Red Bull had figured out how to exploit the blown diffuser a bit better than everyone else, and this year, without that edge, their cars have moved back into the pack. It's a very different situation this year. The cars are much closer in performance (the "double DRS" notwithstanding).

    At least, that's how I see it ;)
     
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    I agree with most of what you said, but that's exactly the same play used by Red Bull last year - fast car is the rabbit, 2nd car holds the pack back letting the rabbit escape.....worked particularly well when Mock Webba manged to get a decent start.

    Yes, the pack is definitely more compacted this year, playing field more level and so on.

    The one who figures out the tires goes to the head of the pack and stays there for the race (unless it rains, then all bets are off - see Alonso and Malaysia), and so far every week has been different - just what the Bernie ordered.

    I think it's great too!
     
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    #377 Minidave, Apr 22, 2012
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    Vettel leads from flag to flag, just like he used to, but boy howdy it was close at times!

    Lotus finishes 2nd and 3rd and Kimi looks like he's ready to take the fight to the rest of the world. Watch Lotus Renault this year, they will be a factor, no doubt.

    What the heck has happened to Big Mac? Bad pit stops, poor strategy and just mediocre performance - not quite what I expected from them....they have a ways to go to get back to the front, but with three weeks to do so, i expect them to be back on form come Spain.

    Fun race!

    And a Force India finishes ahead of both Ferraris! Oh my.....
     
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    Overheard during the race:

    Hamilton's Crew on the radio: "Go to plan B, go to plan B"
    SpeedTV's commentators: "We don't know what plan B is"
    My wife: "I know. They are telling him to take a pill and abort"

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
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  11. Minidave

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    Don't forget Varsha's "one swell foop" :D

    BTW, the stewards looked at all the video and aquitted Rosbug of all guilt and will not penalize him at the next race.
     
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    #381 minimark, Apr 23, 2012
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    Whilst the competitiveness of the season so far has been a breath of much needed fresh air in F1, for this fan the real story has been the rise of Lotus and the fall of Ferrari. For without Alonso's spectacular display of driving at Malaysia, the scuderia would be sliding very near mid pack in competitiveness.

    Then who, before the season had begun, would have predicted how well Lotus has done, much less both Kimi and Grosjean occupying the podium this past weekend in Bahrain? Is it Kimi or Lotus? Either way Kimi's return has been more than expected and Lotus must be patting themselves on the back about right now for hiring him!!

    Will all this add up to a win for Lotus before the season's end, or does it just mean that they'll be in the hunt for second, after a resurgent Vettle and Red Bull?

    Guess we'll have to watch and see!:cool:
     
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    Because Hamilton was technically off the track (all four tires across the line) when he passed Rosberg during the first of those encounters, Alonso says the important take-away is that it's now legal to leave the track to pass. :wink:
     
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    Ha! Always looking for an edge, isn't he? :D

    I think Kimi will win at least one this year, he definitely has the fire in his belly this year!

    I'm thinking this championship could come down to the last race of the year....
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsvWnGgT7Ok]Nico Rosberg explains his driving position - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    OK, I'm going to put this out there. That is about the driving position in the M1A1 Tank. And it was surprisingly comfortable even after spending several hours in it.
     
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    And, sort of like in the F1 cars, also based on best use of limited available real estate, yes?
     
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    Something like that. :biggrin5:
     
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    Just finished watching, and wow.

    Kimi made a fantastic showing there! But I gotta feel bad for Big Mac, as they just ran a bad race. Really bad.
     
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    It will be interesting to see what happens after the test. Maybe shuffling of the field somewhat.

    I'm really enjoying he season so far.