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  1. ScottinBend

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    #611 ScottinBend, Jul 25, 2012
    Here is the latest on the Red Bull engine mapping debacle.....

    Rules clarification confirms change to RBR engine mapping - Racer.com

    Not sure why it is a problem. Why wouldn't a team be allowed to adjust the engine mapping? I know they have to use a "standard" ECU, but I would have thought they could then be able to tweak it as needed. I mean this is F1 right, the supposed pinnacle of racing?
     
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    #612 Alan, Jul 25, 2012
    FIA went to the standard ECU in F1 to get rid of Traction Control and Launch Control. Thus the linear throttle position to torque requirement.
     
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    #613 ScottinBend, Jul 25, 2012
    I knew that, but it just seems so ridiculous that they wouldn't allow the teams the same tweaks that we can enjoy with our own cars. It's not like they can duplicate traction control simply with the torque mapping, it would be close but it would be the same map for the entire race w/o any way to turn it off.
     
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    #614 Steve, Jul 26, 2012
    Apparently there's more to this engine mapping thing than the mid-range torque issue. According to this article over at PitPass.com, Red Bull figured out a way to reintroduce exhaust blowing, the big technical issue that was at the center of most of the controversy last year and outlawed starting this season.

    I agree that in the end it means even greater restriction and it pushes F1 even closer to a controlled, spec series. That bugs me too, but in the end it turns out to be the way they chose to plug a loophole Red Bull found in the anti-blown exhaust regulation.
     
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    #615 Steve, Jul 26, 2012
    There are some interesting pics here from Hockenheim. I would just link them here but the photographer's descriptions (Mark Sutton) are worth the jump.

    Here are a couple examples though:

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    #616 Zapski, Jul 26, 2012
    Part of me say's let them. Isn't pushing the rules and finding the boundaries part of the game? If Red Bull's found an edge, then the other teams need to step up their games. As long as they aren't in direct violation of something then maybe it should slide until next season.

    Besides, it's not like they're chewing up the pavement this year like they did last year. Whatever advantage they've found isn't helping them win races consistently.
     
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    #617 ScottinBend, Jul 26, 2012
    Hadn't heard that. If that is the case then Red Bull knew they were doing something to skirt the reg's, regardless of what the actual wording was.
     
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    #618 Steve, Jul 26, 2012
    Here's Vettel both seemingly confirming the blown exhaust side of the story and putting on a brave face about the effects of changes they now have to make.

    Vettel downplays impact of FIA ruling regarding Red Bull's engine mapping (AutoSport.com)
     
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    #619 Steve, Jul 26, 2012
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    Here's an interesting overview of what goes down within an F1 team behind the media front. The author, a McLaren insider at the time, takes a whack at explaining (at the macro level) what happened at McLaren in that famous (infamous?) 2007 season...do Spygate and the Alonso vs. Hamilton battle sound familiar?

    It's long...I'll only past a few snips here, if you want the rest, click the title.

    On the front line: The invisible divide (TheF1Times.com)
     
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    #620 Nathan, Jul 26, 2012
    Love that insider stuff, it make it more interesting to watch the race and see the team orders unfold.
     
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    #621 ScottinBend, Jul 26, 2012
    Loved the full article. Cleared up a lot of things for me......:biggrin5:
     
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    #622 Steve, Jul 28, 2012
    I just read the forecast for the Hungarian GP race day is 100% chance of precipitation.
     
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    #623 Zapski, Jul 28, 2012
    Well that gives Alonso his chance. Wet ought to mix things up a bit, and he's pretty good in the rain.
     
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    #625 Nathan, Jul 29, 2012
    That was some rain!

    Good race, not spectacular.

    Interesting results too...
     
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    #626 Zapski, Jul 29, 2012
    32 days till the next race.


    *sigh*
     
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    #627 ScottinBend, Jul 29, 2012
    Yea.....not a lot of on-track action. But a nice result.
     
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    #628 goaljnky, Jul 30, 2012
    Yep, I watched the race on DVR Sunday morning. I guess I did not have enough coffee because I dozed off. When I woke back up about half hour later everyone was still in the same position and it was like I didn't miss a thing.
     
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    #630 Nathan, Aug 20, 2012
    B Roll...

    David Coulthard drives Red Bull through Lincoln Tunnel


    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4VPB7D54lk&hd=1]David Coulthard drives Red Bull through Lincoln Tunnel - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    #631 Steve, Aug 29, 2012
    Can't find anything, anywhere, about how this actually went.

    Kubica drives Ford rally car in France (GPUpdate.net)
    Is Kubica planning a Ford future? (WRC.com)
     
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