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    #769 Steve, Oct 8, 2012
    With the Korea weekend in just a few days I fear this is only the beginning of the F1 + Gangnam Style ridiculousness...

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYqX4n-oQvY]F1 Style[/ame]
     
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    #770 Minidave, Oct 8, 2012
    Oppa Gangnam Style!

    Yes, it should get a lot of play over the next week or so, but I wonder how many people realize the original is making fun of the concept? So, this is a parody of a parody! :D
     
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    #771 Steve, Oct 8, 2012
    I'm still trying to decide what I think about the growing flap around Grosjean.

    I'm one of those people who, when I see first lap carnage that looks to have been caused by an over ambitious move, will gripe that someone is an idiot for trying to win the race on the first lap or in the first corner. Not surprisingly, many are saying things like that about Grosjean.

    I get it, esp. since it wasn't his first such incident... But I don't suppose the problem is simply over-ambition at the start. You often hear drivers talking about trying to take advantage of the start to make up for less than stellar qualifying results, etc. Let's be honest, 100% of the drivers on the grid (minus the guy on pole) try on 100% of race starts to gain at least one position on the run to the first corner.

    Point is, one driver slating another for trying to pass early in the race is like the pot calling the kettle black. They all attempt it, he just has more trouble than the rest of them avoiding incidents in the process. There's the real problem. I know I'm picking nits and he needs to sort something out.

    Few disagree about that, the arguments surround what should be done re penalty or whatever. There's a poll on Crash.net called How to solve a problem like Grosjean? with choices ranging from "He should be banned from F1 for the rest of 2012" to "Leave the poor guy alone - he's being picked on".
     
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    #772 ScottinBend, Oct 8, 2012
    One thing to remember, none of his first lap incidents were truly an over taking attempt. He was simply not ready for what was going on in front of him......slowing cars.
     
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    #774 Steve, Oct 8, 2012
    I'm not sure I'd characterize any passing in the first corner as a result of a true overtaking attempt. Everyone drives as quickly as possible and tries to out maneuver others and hopes to both get there first and survive the effort. Picking nits again, I knew what you meant.

    I think what it means is he's just not good at it. He's otherwise a good driver and can both get 'round a track very quickly and pull off passes at speed, but in a first lap melee he comes up lacking...something. Maybe he gets too excited to focus and gets tunnel vision? Maybe he's trying too hard? Lack of adequate skill? Maybe he's just not up to dealing with more than one or two close cars at a time.

    Maybe he should have to start from pit lane for the rest of the season...
     
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    #775 beken, Oct 9, 2012

    I like that. (lol)
     
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    #776 ScottinBend, Oct 9, 2012
    Problem with the first few turns is that the tires and brakes are not up to temps. This may be the biggest thing he has to learn.......cars are going to brake earlier for the first turn.
     
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    #777 minimark, Oct 9, 2012
    Simply put, he needs more patience on the first lap.
     
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    #778 Steve, Oct 9, 2012
    Formula One's most dangerous man (Eurosport.com)
     
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    #779 minimark, Oct 9, 2012
    Ouch....seeing it written out like that looks very bad indeed...

    Wonder what the total cost of all that kaos is?:eek:
     
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    #781 Crashton, Oct 9, 2012
    Speaking of Kimi, he neatly slices Fernado's tire putting the points leader out. Not a word said about that. Race starts are plain crazy always have been always will be. Every time everyone makes it through the start without damage I consider it a minor miracle.

    Seems like Romain Grosjean has become the flavor of the day. Think maybe others are leaning hard on him knowing he will get the blame if something happens?
     
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    #782 Minidave, Oct 9, 2012
    Excuse me?

    You write that like he drove right up to Alonso and took a knife to his tire - there's a significant difference to me - RoGro was going so fast he drove right up over the top of the back of Webba......Kimi did no such thing.

    9 bad crashes in 15 races is an unconscionable number, even for a first year driver - but I doubt Maldonado's record is much better.
     
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    #783 Zapski, Oct 10, 2012
    How many times has Massa hit Hamilton?
     
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    #784 Nathan, Oct 10, 2012
    This year - 0

    Last year - 3 Monaco, Singapore and Japan.
     
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    #785 Crashton, Oct 10, 2012
    Guess we saw things in a different way. I was not trying to diminish what Romain did. Just point out that others also do stuff on the starts. I don't think Kimi did his slice job on Fernando on purpose, but Fernando was in front just as Webber was. I don't think Romian hit Webber on purpose either. Heck Webber moved right & Romain hit him. Just racing at the start, sucks but it happens.

    In fact Kimi drove Perez off track at one point during the race. This is racing & this kind of stuff is going to happen. From F1 to SCCA it happens, just racing. I do not enjoy seeing crashes, but I also hate when racer's are so far apart I read the Sunday newspaper instead of watching the race. Close racing is what it is all about. Like I said earlier Romain has become the flavor of the day. He is running in a fast car at the pointy end of the field where stuff can & does happen.
     
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    #788 Zapski, Oct 10, 2012
    Wasn't it the first time a Japanese driver had taken the podium at Suzuka since 1990 or something? I'd be pretty excited by that if it if I were them. I think he's only the third Japanese driver to take a podium at all, iirc.

    Though, on the other hand, as crowded as Japan is (and believe me it really is - I lived there for a summer) 10,000 people can show up anywhere without much effort.
     
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    #789 Steve, Oct 10, 2012
    Stewart offers to aid Grosjean – again (Crash.net)
     
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    #790 Steve, Oct 10, 2012
    Peter Sauber steps down, again.

    Monisha Kaltenborn becomes new Sauber F1 team principal (AutoSport.com)
     
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    #791 Steve, Oct 11, 2012
    Another long and relatively interesting article recommendation. This one on motorsportmagazine.com titled “Any idiot can block…†starts in 1955 with Fangio at Spa and talks about etiquette, rules, etc, through to the penalty system of today.

    That sounds like it must be very long but it's not that bad. The title is a quote from Gilles Villeneuve. Here's the reference:
     
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