F1 - 2012

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    Alonso got a free Ferrari FF...I wonder what Massa got...

    Fernando Alonso Awarded A Ferrari FF For Winning Malaysia GP (MotorAuthority.com)
     
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    He got to watch Alonso accept the free Ferrari. :lol:
     
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    That's good...got a great laugh from that, thanks.
     
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    I'll second that.

    No need to feel sorry for Felipe though, he got one of these a while back. That should hold him over. :D

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEGo5bviJdc]SRT delivers custom Grand Cherokee SRT8s in Maranello. - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    I don't feel sorry for Massa, he had a great run and got to drive for one of the best teams in F1 - historically speaking - and while it's sad that his career was ended by a freak accident , he's still alive, a fate many F1 pilots didn't get to share. I think he knew his career was over last year, and he should have retired then.....I understand the drive, and I understand a racer not wanting to give up.

    But this year's events are going to put a sad and sorry note to all the great things he did accomplish in the past.
     
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    It does seem that the bar to get a new car at Ferrari got a lot lower. I recall Kimi had to win the championship to get one. Now it seems all one has to do is win a race.
     
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    ....this could be very telling on how badly they feel the car really is.:rolleyes:
     
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    It's a heckofa precedent to set. What if things change and he wins more races? More free Ferraris? Definitely makes it look like the folks at Maranello expected a win-less season.
     
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    I'd rather have the Ferrari. Though I gotta say the paint on those SRTs is very, very nice.
     
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    :lol::lol:
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLvRp5g0Ybc]Formula One 1973 Emerson Fittipaldi pit stop - YouTube[/ame]

    Just for fun, here's a quick comparo. Two wheels above, four wheels below.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2VSt_VfGM]Sebastian Vettel - Four Second Pit Stop - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    A cool video montage from 1950-2009 in less than 7 minutes. I like it for the progression of car styles through the years.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO9_JhiSXIo]History of Formula 1 - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    One more cool flashback, this one much more recent:

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmBl_XT0BpU]Lewis Hamilton drives Ayrton Senna's McLaren on BBC Top Gear - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Here is a cool video on the McLaren DRS/Fduct

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKUziKDe51A]Mercedes' DRS F-Duct Controversy Continues: The F1 Show - Sky Sports F1 2012 - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Yep, and Ross Braun says it's cheap to build, just a couple carbon tubes...on the other hand integrating it into your car after it's already been designed is another story. :D

    He also made a good point about the RRA (Resource Restriction Agreement). Other teams are complaining about how expensive it will be for them to develop a similar system but he wonders where they would get the money to do it if they're already working to the limit of the RRA...
     
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    This one is a little confusing. Lotus drops out of F1 sponsorship but Lotus are still in F1...

    More important I think is the news (to me) about Group Lotus. This is the first I've heard of Group Lotus -- not the F1 team but the sportscar manufacturer -- having "financial uncertainties" and that's a bit worrying.

    I'm just as surprised to learn of the Lotus F1 team owner considering taking over Group Lotus. I guess I haven't been paying attention.

    Lotus F1 team committed to name despite end of title sponsor deal (AUTOSPORT.com)
     
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    I kinda wonder at the effectiveness of the system. It seems unlikely to me that it could really cause the wing to fully stall. Get closer to stalling perhaps, but I just think that the air that's moved forward wouldn't have the speed or pressure needed to work correctly.

    Of course, I'm not a physicist nor an aerodynamic engineer.
     
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    It also only works in the DRS activation zone during a race -- and even then only if DRS is enabled -- so it's been much more helpful to them in quali when they can use the DRS as much and often as they like.
     
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    Just because it changes direction doesn't mean that it loses any of it's force. The tubes are simply acting as a duct and there is no relation of the air speed inside the duct to the direction the car is going.

    But I agree, doesn't seem to be a whole lot of air there.
     
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    #340 goaljnky, Apr 6, 2012
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    A lot, or a little, these guys scramble for every little advantage. If you recall the dorsal fins of the few years back: nobody was quite sure if they offered any advantage, but once one team went to them (Williams I believe), the rest followed for fear of being left behind.
     

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