F1 - 2012

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  1. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

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    Kimi..it's called "Team Work," the team put in a lot of work trying to give you what you asked for, more feedback from the steering, which is a very reasonable request, albeit much easier to say than to create sometimes.... As a member of that team you owed them more than one lap to pronounce all their work crap, and you also owed the team and the sponsors the valuable and limited track time that was available...tis what you are getting paid for after all...:incazzato:

    How do you say "PRICK" in Finland?:cryin:
     
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    Apparently it can be kikkeli, oas, piikki, pisto, lävistää, merkitä pistein, pistellä, pistää, puhkaista, tuikata.

    But then that's an online translator so who knows what those really say. ;)
     
  3. Steve

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    There are drivers who only want to drive and other drivers who like to get involved in the details of development. The first type provide feedback about the car that's usually all in the language of driving and needs to be interpreted by the engineers, the others tend to use more helpful language and actually work with the engineers and, in turn, get even better at it as time passes.

    Sounds like Kimi is more of the former. Give him a good car that fits his driving style and you can start counting championship points but if the car isn't what he wants you might have a tough time figuring out how to give him what he needs to be successful.

    Interesting coincidence that while he wants more feedback (from the steering) that's exactly what the team needs more of from him.....useful feedback.

    Of course if there hadn't been so much rain after that first practice session and they'd been able to get good practice in subsequent sessions with proper tire wear data for race setup they might have done well. And if they'd done well in the race there wouldn't be so much complaining. There would probably still be some grumbling within the team behind the scenes (understandably) but not so much public airing of dirty laundry.

    Here's hoping Kimi will make a few adjustments to his own "setup," I'd like to see him do well.
     
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    The student/government tuition negotiations have broken down again so disruption plans are on for the GP weekend in Montreal...

    The race will certainly go on, but I don't envy the spectators going to and from the island venue...been there done that without protesters and it can be slow and cumbersome at best!

    Paying upwards of $450 for a weekend ticket and not being able to get to your seat will definately increase the anxiety for spectators.
     
  5. Minidave

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    The Canadian GP is not expected to be a sell out this year and several thousand tickets remain available a week ahead of the race as fans coming from abroad have decided to pass on this year's event.

    I assume they know this because they know how many tix have been sold to overseas customers this year vs last, but I wonder why?

    Could it be that there just aren't enough wealthy people to fill F1's spectator's seats at the ever increasing prices?

    We've had a good discussion about the Austin race on another forum I frequent, and one of the concensus is that COTA needs to follw the Indy blueprint, make it affordable and pack the stands with people - that flys in the face of the current marketing effort and it's "seat licenses", so I hope Austin figures it out. Every successful sporting event, whether racing or the stupor bowl has had affordable seating to go with the high end boxes, but if you really want an event to succeed, you need all sorts and sizes of wallets to be excited about it, not just the fat $$$ ones.

    Even if the tix are as "low" as $250 each, I figure it will cost me over $2K to go to the Austin F1 race, I might do it once, but there's no way it could become a yearly trek for me at that cost.
     
  6. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

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    If $250.00 will be for coach seating. This F1 fan will continue to enjoy the live broadcast on TV.
     
  7. Nathan

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    Coach..you mean you think you are getting a real seat for the weekend for $250?

    HA!

    I'll bet that $250 will get you a General Admission ticket so you can fight over a patch of dirt that you can haul a portable seat to.

    I want to go, I really do, but I see the handwriting on the wall. Tickets will be expensive, concessions will be stupidly expensive. Hotels will gouge and since there are no options close to the traffic the idea is to bus in the spectators to keep traffic down. Think a ticket will include that transportation too...think again.

    I'm a generally very positive person, life is good, the glass is half full, the sun will come up again tomorrow kind of guy, but I'm afraid F1 in the US is not going to be a situation where the spectator is nickeled and dimed to death but 10 and 20ed to death.
     
  8. minimark

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    #488 minimark, Jun 3, 2012
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    Yea I'm the same way Nathan and why I think this is a half decent forum!!!:cool:

    Coach was sarcasm...lol

    When we go to a Charlotte race I pay $200.00 + a ticket, but that is Speedway club seating....as in the best in the house other than possibly a corporate suite....

    Still a Heck of a lot for a seat for one race but.....
     
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    I have tickets to the Montreal Grand Prix (hopefully the protestors aren't too bad), they are grandstand 1 tickets and they were right at $500 each. I went last year and had tickets just after the hairpin and they were around $250. The survey that I filled out for COTA wasn't too far off those prices. Well see when they finally announce them, I am still hopeful a 3 day pass won't be exorbitantly expensive.
     
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    Good luck, hopefully it won't be too disrupting but keep in mind that you can take any taxi from downtown to the Casino and completely avoid the mess that the Metro could become...you would be a closer walk to grandstand 1 also! :Thumbsup:
     
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    Yea, grandstand 1 is a bit of a hike from where the subway drops off. Last year the subway made it a breeze to get to the track. The vehicle traffic was backed up farther than you could see. I will probably just get to the track early on Sunday... normally those hippie protestor types don't get up that early. :)
     
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    More bad news, I hope you weren't planning on going to the pit lane walk on Thursday...

     
  13. Nathan

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    Vettel will be on Letterman this coming Monday.
     
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    I actually saw a TV commercial yesterday that had Alonso as one of the athletes. And it wasn't on Speed TV, or during a race broadcast.
     
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    A little publicity while they're in N.A. Also,

    Vettel to drive New Jersey street circuit (GPUpdate.com)
     
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    Kubica undergoes elbow operation (AutoSport.com)
     
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    Here's a flashback from Montreal 2007.

    I wonder why I don't remember this... I ought to be able to remember Ralf at speed on the track narrowly missing a beaver...or is that a beaver at speed on the track narrowly missing Ralf? :biggrin5:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqaf7_Bgb2I[/ame]
     
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    Hehehe... beaver... funny word!
     
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    It's actually a groundhog...I do like saying beaver though. :cornut:
     
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    MARMOT!
     

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