F1 - 2012

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    Maldonado most penalised driver in 2012 (GPUpdate.net)
     
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    Dang, Alonso should get one championship point for not receiving one single penalty the entire season!:Thumbsup:
     
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    And not passing under a yellow flag. ;)
     
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    I think he should be saddled with Massa's gearbox penalty. It was for his benefit...:rolleyes:
     
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    And they gave Grosjean a race suspension, yet Maldonado took Hamilton out and other drivers.
     
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    I was very surprised they didn't break the seal on Massa's transmission in Brazil. Maybe they figured they couldn't get away with that twice.
     
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    Perhaps not... [note in brackets is mine]

    Analysis: Why Vettel's pass was legal (AutoSport.com)
     
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    Makes no sense as the lights can show green as well as yellow and red.
     
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    Right, and the light at Turn 4 did show green, but there wasn't a light at the preceding marshal's post where the flag was apparently being waved. The marshal's post flag is therefore considered the beginning of the green flag zone, not the green light, the green light was within the zone.

    The lights on Vettel's wheel were linked to the light system (they need to fix that) but the marshal's flag takes precedence because the waved flag was the first indicator of a flag change on the track.

    I watched that video a number of times and noticed that Vettel held back and didn't even attempt to pass until he was past the marshal's post where they say the green flag was waving.
     
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    Man, this system really needs to be upgraded.
     
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    Yup.
     
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    I think the lights are a great improvement in terms of visibility, esp. in low light and lousy weather conditions, but that's also why this conflict between flags and lights not placed together is such an issue. In conditions of lousy visibility the flags are almost useless compared to the lights, yet spotting that dark green flag (dark because it's wet) can make a huge difference. If the drivers ahead of Vettel had seen the same green flag waving, they would have been on throttle at the same point and he wouldn't have been able to make that pass going into Turn 4.....and we wouldn't be discussing it.
     
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    Wouldn't be F1 if there wasn't some controversy. ;)
     
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    :lol:

    Listen for Kimi's reaction to the warning when he's almost back to the circuit.

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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stPzkJCbMKE]Kimi Raikkonen in the new Apple Maps commercial (iOS 6) - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Made my morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    'Vettel case is closed' - Ferrari statement (GPUpdate.net)
     
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    Hat's off to Ferrari for manning up, now we can put this dog to rest and move on to next season!!!:cool:
     
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    Di Montezemolo slammed Ecclestone big time, and in public, and while talking to the press!

    Here's just the snip with the slam. I won't quote the whole article because the actual subject is old news we're trying to move past (it's mostly about his response to Ecclestone's criticism of Ferrari for questioning Vettel's pass on Vergne in Brazil - read the whole thing here if you like).
    You can claim Ferrari get preferential treatment if you like but you can bet Bernie won't be handing them any special favors for a while.
     

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