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Steve · Apr 22, 2013

I watched it twice. Loved it from the crazy start to Red Bull choosing the race in Bahrain, of all places, to let Jill Jones accept the Constructor's Trophy (very well done Red Bull ).

It was a race full of stories, all sorts of surprises, including Rosberg taking the poll in quali...who predicted that one? I really wish Alonso's DRS wouldn't have malfunctioned because that might have made the race for P1 as interesting as the rest, but watching Fred fight despite the lack of DRS was also fun.

As to the McLaren driver scuffle, here's a very McLaren assessment...

Q&A: McLaren on driver rivalry (Racer.com)

April 22, 2013

In a year when rivalry between teammates has hit new heights following issues at Red Bull in Malaysia and Force India in Australia and China it was McLaren's turn in Bahrain to find itself trying to deal with a frenetic fight between its two drivers.

As Jenson Button and Sergio Perez battled furiously with each other â€“ banging wheels and making contact with each other â€“ the team knew it was in a difficult situation in wondering whether it needed to intervene. While emotions ran high on Sunday, both in terms of radio communication and post-race television interviews, the situation calmed down in the hours after the race.

AUTOSPORT spoke to McLaren sporting director Sam Michael on Monday to find out how events had unfolded, how things had moved on since the checkered flag, and whether or not Button and Perez had forgiven each other.

Q. How were Jenson Button and Sergio Perez's moods straight after the Bahrain Grand Prix yesterday?

Sam Michael: Straight after the race had finished, Jenson was interviewed by a large group of TV reporters, as is always the case when a grand prix has come to an end.

Jenson was frustrated that his race-long battle with Checo [Perez] had slowed his progress throughout the event, and believed that Checo had at times been too forceful in his defense â€“ and he made some robust live-TV comments about Checo as a result.

As ever, though, since Jenson is a true pro, just a few minutes later the remarks he then made when he joined Martin [Whitmarsh] for a longer and more analytical post-race interview session with the Sky TV crew of Simon [Lazenby], Damon [Hill] and Johnny [Herbert] were far more diplomatic.

'Fair play to Checo; he had a great race and he scored some great points for the team,' Jenson told the viewers, while repeating his misgivings about Checo's on-track behavior, albeit clearly in a more reflective mood than he'd been in immediately after the race had ended.

Checo, who'd just had a difficult weekend in Shanghai, was understandably delighted to have driven such a strong race in Bahrain, successfully pulling off excellent overtaking maneuvers to pass both Fernando's [Alonso] Ferrari and Mark's [Webber] Red Bull in the closing stages, and as a result he was visibly very happy when he did his post-race TV interviews.

Q. Did you or Martin Whitmarsh speak to Jenson and Checo about the race incidents?

SM: Yes, of course we did, in order to ensure that everyone had a clear understanding, going forward.

Both Jenson and Checo had an opportunity to express their views to us, and then we gave them the team's position. That position is quite simple: McLaren allows both its drivers to race hard and fair, and in return its drivers must respect that trust and mustn't let the team down. It was a good discussion, and both Jenson and Checo were keen not only to talk the issues through but also to part on good terms.

You have to remember that Checo greatly respects Jenson's ability, expertise and experience, and is keen to learn from him, while Jenson is genuinely fond of his new teammate and recognizes his talent. Their partnership is only four grands prix old, but it's already clear that they could well combine to become a seriously potent force.

Q. So do both drivers believe their racing was a bit close to the mark yesterday?

SM: Yes, they do. Checo was understandably pleased with his performance, but he appreciates that at times it was too close to the mark. Likewise, Jenson acknowledges that during the race he reacted harshly to some of the occurrences. Together we've reviewed all the detail â€“ the precise content of which is not appropriate for external discussion. However, the team also has to accept that, in not imposing a team order on either of our drivers, despite our seeing on our pit wall monitors an increasingly intense battle unfolding between them, we weren't adopting what you could term a 'caution-optimized' strategy.

But that's the way McLaren goes motor racing â€“ always has, always will. Some of the most exciting moments of modern-era grand prix racing were provided by McLaren teammates Ayrton [Senna] and Alain [Prost] fighting each other on track in the late 1980s, and Ron [Dennis] didn't impose team orders on them in those days either.

And Jenson and Lewis [Hamilton] have had their fair share of on-track battles over the past three years, too â€“ and, although they caused some nail-biting moments on the pit wall, we didn't intervene. And that was right.

Put it this way: consider the damaging effect it would have had on our drivers if we'd given a team order that they shouldn't race each other yesterday. To be clear, I'm not saying that there will never be a future scenario wherein team orders may be applicable, owing to circumstances such as reliability, just to cite one example.

However, in that case, it's likely that both drivers would be aware of the situation, and would understand it, or, if it wasn't possible for us to make them aware of the situation during the race, the team would be confident of explaining it effectively to them post-race. But no such situation existed yesterday, so a team order would have had no place.

Formula 1 is about motor racing, and 'racing' is the operative word in this context. That's why 100 million people tune in to watch every grand prix on TV every two weeks. That's why Formula 1 is such a popular sport. That's why we all fell in love with Formula 1 when we were kids. And that's why McLaren will always operate in that way: as a race team.

And to be clear, Jenson and Checo want it like that. Both of them came to McLaren on the understanding that they could race, so they fully support the team in that regard.

Q. Checo said the moves could have ended both his and Jenson's races, so isn't that an admission that the racing between them was too robust?

SM: Well, you have to give Checo credit for making that remark, but please note that he made it immediately after the race, too. Remember, too, that Checo is a young hotshoe. He's 23. He's started just 41 grands prix, and he hasn't won one yet. He's stood on just three grand prix podiums.

By contrast Jenson is 33. He's started 232 grands prix and has won 15 of them. He's stood on 49 grand prix podiums. And of course he's also a World Champion. The gulf in their age and experience is enormous. But Checo is fast and talented, and Jenson's example is and will continue to be extremely helpful to his learning process.

But we â€“ Martin, myself and everyone at McLaren â€“ are happy with that. We hired Jenson and Checo because we wanted Jenson and Checo. They're racers, and we want them to be racers. And the logical extrapolation of that statement is that we want them to race. And we want them to know that, too.

Q. How would you sum up Perez's performance in his four grands prix so far for McLaren?

SM: Melbourne was Checo's first race weekend for McLaren, and both Saturday and Sunday were mixed-weather days. His pace was respectable compared with Jenson's, but we weren't competitive on the Albert Park circuit anyway. In Sepang we had a technical issue on Checo's car throughout the race, yet he still scored points.

In Shanghai he was fast, but he was out-raced by Jenson in that first critical race stint while managing the tires was crucial. So, going to Bahrain, he spent a lot of time with us, analyzing his data with his engineers. Our instruction to him was to focus hard on optimizing his race performance, and to prioritize that over qualifying.

Looking at his race weekend as a whole, he did exactly as he was advised and achieved a great result for himself, while scoring eight valuable points for the team.

This article originally appeared in Autosport.com
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Steve · Apr 23, 2013

Top five stats from the Bahrain Grand Prix (motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com)

Keith Collantine | Apr 23, 2013, 8:48 AM EDT

The top three in the Bahrain Grand Prix was the same as we had last year â€“ something which very rarely happens in F1. Here are the top five stats from last weekendâ€™s race.

Podium dÃ©jÃ vu

The 2013 Bahrain Grand Prix had something very unusual in common with the 1999 Spanish Grand Prix and the 1965 British Grand Prix.

All three saw the exact same podium as they had at the previous race one year before:

Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4

Races 1st 2nd 3rd

1964 and 1965 British Grands Prix Jim Clark Graham Hill John Surtees

1998 and 1999 Spanish Grands Prix Mika Hakkinen David Coulthard Michael Schumacher

2012 and 2013 Bahrain Grands Prix Sebastian Vettel Kimi Raikkonen Romain Grosjean

Mercedes match BRM and Cooper

Mercedes scored back-to-back pole positions for the first time since 1955.

Nico Rosberg gave them their 11th pole, putting them level with former teams BRM and Cooper.

Raikkonen keeps on scoring

Kimi Raikkonen is drawing ever closer to that record for most consecutive points scores. Bahrain was his 21st in a row, leaving him three short of Michael Schumacherâ€™s record.

Red Bull in the top fiveâ€¦

Red Bull are now the fifth most successful Formula One team of all time having scored their 36th win last weekend. Ferrari, McLaren, Williams and Lotus lie ahead of them â€“ they need another 45 to draw level with the latter in fourth place.

â€¦and Vettel in the top six

This was Sebastian Vettelâ€™s 28th career win meaning he has won more races than any F1 driver bar Michael Schumacher, Alain Prost, Ayrton Senna, Nigel Mansell â€“ and Fernando Alonso.
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Zapski · Apr 24, 2013

INTERVIEW-Motor racing-Pirelli urged to keep tyres as they are | Reuters

(Reuters) - Red Bull have an agenda in complaining about this year's tyres and the 'vast majority' of Formula One teams have urged Pirelli not to change them, according to the Italian company's motorsport director Paul Hembery.

After the first four races of the season, Pirelli have been in the headlines more than ever after introducing new compounds to encourage overtaking, mix up strategy and create more pitstops.

There have been concerns that the races have become confusing for fans, while some drivers have moaned about having to pace themselves rather than being able to go flat out.

Much of the criticism has come from champions Red Bull, who want the tyres to be longer-lasting and blamed excessive wear for their controversial use of 'team orders' in Malaysia last month.

Hembery said he felt like 'piggy in the middle' and the situation was all "a bit weird really".

"We often sit down and go 'what's all this about?'," the Briton, Pirelli's main man in Formula One, told Reuters at last weekend's Bahrain Grand Prix.

"It's the third year (of Pirelli being sole tyre supplier), it's no different this year than any other year. We've given the challenge, some like it and some don't. They all have the same challenge," added the company's motorsport director.

"In the end we've had the vast majority of teams come to us and say: 'Whatever you do don't change anything'.

"We might - because we have to, and because we see things that as tyre supplier we might want to change - but essentially they are saying: 'Don't change even if you are getting this (negative) media coverage.' So it is rather strange."

Sebastian Vettel won for Red Bull in Bahrain, the triple champion's second victory of the year, but team principal Christian Horner told reporters afterwards that he felt the tyres were still too "on an edge".

"The most vocal team has been Red Bull obviously, and for their reasons," said Hembery.

"The others, if they see one team pushing that way will push against that because they feel there's a good reason why they (Red Bull) want to go in that direction."

ECCLESTONE HAPPY

Pirelli have been supported by Formula One supremo Ecclestone, who always likes a controversy - or indeed anything that gets F1 talked about - but is also in favour of rewarding strategy and driver skills.

"If the tyres lasted from January to December, there'd be something else to talk about," 82-year-old billionaire Ecclestone told Reuters with a sigh.

"What is good about this (situation) is that it really comes back a little bit to what it used to be when the guys had to look after their brakes and gearboxes and things like that."

The tyres have certainly made a notable difference to the racing this season.

In China, the third race of the season, Red Bull's Australian Mark Webber used the soft tyres for just one lap when he started from the pit lane. In Bahrain, a four-stop strategy was an option for some, with Ferrari's Felipe Massa suffering two tyre deflations in the race.

In Malaysia, Red Bull justified their use of 'team orders' - that backfired when world champion Vettel ignored them and passed Webber to win - by saying they were worried about excessive tyre wear.

Pirelli changed the compounds for Bahrain based on evidence from Malaysia that they might need to be harder, and will go back to Milan to review the data before the European season starts in Spain next month.

Whatever they decide, they will be even-handed.

"We try and do the right thing for everybody, for the sport and the vast majority. We don't want to favour anybody," said Hembery.

"Maybe the engineers and drivers would prefer it that they knew they've got pole and could run away with it...but as a sporting spectacle we know that fans want to have uncertainty."

Hembery, whose company replaced Japan's Bridgestone in 2011 on an initial three-year deal that runs out at the end of this season, expected the situation to calm down once the midpoint of the season was reached.

"The first two seasons were very similar. You get to seven or eight races in and things really do settle down and it'll be the same again this year I'm sure," said the Briton.

When Pirelli came back into Formula One, after leaving in the 1990s, they were asked to make tyres that would help to create more overtaking by becoming a greater part of the strategy.

Making the tyres more of a talking point was also attractive commercially.

"We were asked to replicate Canada 2010 and we are doing what we were asked to do. If you don't want us to do that, tell us and we'll do another approach," Hembery said of the criticism. "But if we do that, maybe it doesn't appeal to us any more being in the sport where you get no visibility.

"That was one of the reasons why the previous suppliers had to go, because they were anonymous.

"We could build the tyres to last the whole race, go to sleep, say we're not worried about any publicity.

"As it is a very dramatic and significant net cost to the business, we have to justify why we are here," he added. "So we need to have visibility, we need to have a profile, otherwise quite frankly we won't be here."

Pirelli have yet to sign a new contract from 2014, although their deal with Ecclestone for trackside advertising has several more years to run, but talks are ongoing. (Editing by Clare Fallon)
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Steve · Apr 24, 2013

Not sure this one was worth making.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47qOX1ni1Yk"]Cutaway Insights - Episode 4: Airhorn - Sauber F1 Team - YouTube[/ame]

Minidave · Apr 24, 2013

Yeah.......

This is the tire, it connects the wheels to the ground......stay tuned next week when we'll talk about paint........

Zapski · Apr 24, 2013

Racecar Engineering had an article on that subject, much more interesting.

Technology explained: F1 airboxes & filters | Racecar Engineering

Zapski · Apr 25, 2013

Anyone wanna buy a slightly used F1 Car on Ebay?

Pirelli set to put Formula One car up for online auction | Metro News

If you have always fancied yourself as a bit of a Jenson Button and you have enough room in your garage, and your wallet, then this could be your lucky day.

Tyre giant Pirelli are to put a 2011 HRT Formula One car up for a charity auction on eBay after it became surplus to requirements.

The Italian company acquired the engine-less car last season after the Spanish-based team went out of business.

Pirelli had originally planned to repaint the car in their black and yellow colours and use it for promotional purposes at dealerships and company events, however it seems no one is interested in taking it on.

The companyâ€™s motorsport director Paul Hembery said: â€˜There doesnâ€™t seem to be a lot of enthusiasm, itâ€™s a bit of a shame really.

â€˜Our marketing department said nobody seems to want to use it. So I said letâ€™s put it on eBay for charity.

â€˜Now we are trying to find a category on eBay for an F1 car.â€™
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Steve · Apr 29, 2013

More on Formula 1 and Long Beach (MotorSportMagazine.com)

Gordon Kirby | 29 April 2013

My blog in this space two weeks ago â€“ about the possibility of Bernie Ecclestone and some partners making a bid to buy the Long Beach GP â€“ evinced denials from owners Kevin Kalkhoven and Jerry Forsythe. Long Beach boss Jim Michaelian, who was particularly aggrieved, grumbled to me about dragging up old news. But from all Iâ€™m told thereâ€™s no doubt that Ecclestone, Zak Brown and Chris Pook are going to make a bid to buy the race in 2015 with plans to install F1 back in Southern California in 2016.

Itâ€™s been reported that Long Beach mayor Bob Foster will fly to the Canadian GP in June to meet with Ecclestone to begin discussions about Bernieâ€™s sales pitch. If that happens, it will be clear the game is on and you can be sure that Ecclestoneâ€™s pitch will be lucrative for Long Beach while the global exposure figures the city would receive from a contemporary F1 race would dwarf todayâ€™s tepid IndyCar numbers.

This yearâ€™s race drew 375,000 viewers on NBC Sports Network in the United States, down 20% from 468,000 last year. Through this yearâ€™s first three IndyCar races NBCSN is averaging 343,000 viewers, 10 times smaller than a typical NASCAR race. Twenty years ago, when Nigel Mansell was racing for Newman/Haas in CARTâ€™s IndyCar World Series, the domestic TV audience for CART equalled NASCAR, but those days are long gone.

Similarily, the media centres at Long Beach and most other IndyCar races these days are quiet, almost deserted, unlike the raucous crowds from the Mansell days that continued through Alex Zanardiâ€™s three years in Indycars with Ganassiâ€™s team a few years later. But today, IndyCar is almost entirely absent from the mainstream media across the United States. Outside the city of Indianapolis, the series has little or no identity and sadly has become one of Americaâ€™s smallest, most irrelevant sports. A big part of Bernieâ€™s sales pitch to Long Beach will be the transformation in the global media exposure F1 would bring the race.

Of course, the return of F1 to Southern California would bring a similar transformation to the raceâ€™s current comfortable ambience and accessibility. Like all modern F1 races it would become much more restricted, segregated and expensive for all.

It will also be expensive for Ecclestone and his partners. They will have to spend a lot of money to upgrade the track and pitlane and it might be a challenge to find the room and suitable location for todayâ€™s spacious F1-spec media centre.

Without doubt, the loss of Long Beach would be a blow for IndyCar. The race is by far IndyCarâ€™s biggest and best street race and the seriesâ€™ second most important race behind only the Indy 500, so Kalkhoven and Forsythe will be reluctant to cede control of the race.

One day at Long Beach this year I chatted with Stefan Johansson about the possibility of F1â€™s return. Stefan has lived in LA for the past 20 or so years and is as active as ever. He manages Scott Dixon, manufactures and sells his own large format watches and continues to race a few times each year in LMP cars.

â€œIt would be fabulous!â€ Stefan grinned about recreating Long Beach with F1. â€œTheyâ€™d have to spend a lot of money, but they could make it the race. It would be great for F1 and great for motor racing in America.â€

Itâ€™ll be intriguing to see how the battle for Long Beach plays out over the next few years.
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ScottinBend · Apr 29, 2013

Not strictly an F1 video, but it does have the Redbull in it.....

[ame=http://youtu.be/cHtVg8PiTTQ]DOUGIE DOES RED BULL RACING - YouTube[/ame]

mrntd · Apr 30, 2013

Every time I hear Bernie wanting to have a race someplace I think there are 19 races now and the teams don't want more than 20. So who is going to loose a race. We have the one in Texas and next year in New Jersey. Even I don't think the US can support a 3rd race at Long Beach. My guess is Bernie doesn't like Texas, too conservative and cowboy, and prefers the left coast.

Zapski · Apr 30, 2013

I don't even know how he could justify having three races in one country. He'd have to drop something. I'm betting he'd drop Jersey though, rather than COTA. By all accounts COTA was a great success last year and all the teams loved it. Money motivates Bernie more than anything else.

Steve · Apr 30, 2013

mrntd said: ↑

Every time I hear Bernie wanting to have a race someplace I think there are 19 races now and the teams don't want more than 20. So who is going to loose a race.
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Yup, and the Long Beach option is pure speculation at this point but both Russia and New Jersey are expected on the 2014 calendar plus I've read that Mexico and Thailand are both working on new tracks, with Thailand predicted by many to join the club in 2015. Which venues will go away? That's easy to answer - at least in concept - the venues least able to pay for the privilege and/or which drum up the lowest broadcast figures (and other any other factor that drives revenue).

Like Zapski says, money comes first, everything else follows.

Steve · Apr 30, 2013

Raikkonen makes biggest gain so far as McLaren slump (motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com)

Keith Collantine | Apr 30, 2013, 12:00 PM EDT

Kimi Raikkonen has made the biggest gain in his points tally over the first four races compared to the same period last year.

The Lotus driver, who won the season-opening race in Melbourne, is second in the drivers’ championship with 33 points more than he had this time last year.

Felipe Massa and Sebastian Vettel are the only other drivers to have posted double-digit gains in their points tallies so far.

Fernando Alonso’s retirement in Malaysia and DRS problems in Bahrain mean he has added just four points over his 2012 total at this point, despite the disadvantage had in these races last year with a less competitive car.

In the constructors’ championship, McLaren’s difficulties with their MP4-28 has wiped 69 points off their points tally compared with this time last year, at which time they were second in the standings.

Sauber are also enduring a difficult start to the season off the back of a strong 2012.

See how all the drivers and teams compared against their 2012 performance after four races in these tables:

Drivers’ championship points

Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4

Pos. Driver Points vs. 2012

1 Sebastian Vettel 77 +24

2 Kimi Raikkonen 67 +33

3 Lewis Hamilton 50 +1

4 Fernando Alonso 47 +4

5 Mark Webber 32 -16

6 Felipe Massa 30 +28

7 Romain Grosjean 26 +3

8 Paul di Resta 20 +5

9 Nico Rosberg 14 -21

10 Jenson Button 13 -30

11 Sergio Perez 10 -12

12 Adrian Sutil 6 n/a

13 Daniel Ricciardo 6 +4

14 Nico Hulkenberg 5 +3

15 Jean-Eric Vergne 1 -3

16 Valtteri Bottas 0 n/a

17 Pastor Maldonado 0 -4

18 Esteban Gutierrez 0 n/a

19 Jules Bianchi 0 n/a

20 Charles Pic 0 n/a

21 Giedo van der Garde 0 n/a

22 Max Chilton 0 n/a

Constructors’ championship points

Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4

Pos. Team Points vs. 2012

1 Red Bull 109 +8

2 Lotus 93 +36

3 Ferrari 77 +32

4 Mercedes 64 +27

5 Force India 26 +9

6 McLaren 23 -69

7 Toro Rosso 7 +1

8 Sauber 5 -26

9 Williams 0 -18

10 Marussia 0 0

11 Caterham 0 0

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minimark · May 12, 2013

WOOOOT, finally got to see a race live!!!

Won't spoil it for those that didn't though!!

Steve · May 12, 2013

Nathan said: ↑

Great race. It's about time a team said lets run this balls to the wall and stop trying to nurse tires.
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Indeed.

Spoilers below:

Plus since Alonso won on that strategy it made an unusual and important point in the endless tire durability conversation.

Pirelli usually point to stats after a race showing nearly everyone stopped 2-3 times and then pat themselves on the back because that's what they're aiming for. Whatever you think of intentionally building for that level of degradation, it's artificial "proof of success" when those numbers are achieved by babying the tires.

This time the winning driver pushed throughout (apparently) and had to change tires four times, as did his team mate who came 3rd.

Pirelli were therefore forced to say they're planning to make changes to compounds and/or construction to bring the numbers down by Silverstone (late June).

I don't expect big changes though since Hembery already made a point of saying Barcelona is a high degradation track and that any significant changes will make Red Bull happy and disappoint everyone else. :rolleyes5:

mrntd · May 12, 2013

They already said they are going to change construction because of the delamination. This will screw up the data anyway.

ScottinBend · May 12, 2013

Not necessarily, as this would be modifying the carcass not the compound.

Minidave · May 12, 2013

No, I think mrntd is right, if they change the carcass it will affect the performance across the board......

But I read they weren't going to do it after all....

minimark · May 12, 2013

Not to forget Kimi and Lotus ran the protect the tires strategy and finished second....Kinda cool that there may be two ways to skin the cat..

My preference is the Scuderia's balls to the wall approach of course!!

On a side note; maybe Schumacher was doing a much better Job last year than he was given credit for.....Because this year they define suck.:screwy:

Steve · May 13, 2013

I just noticed Gutierrez had fast lap of the race!

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Column 1	Column 2	Column 3	Column 4
Races	1st	2nd	3rd
1964 and 1965 British Grands Prix	Jim Clark	Graham Hill	John Surtees
1998 and 1999 Spanish Grands Prix	Mika Hakkinen	David Coulthard	Michael Schumacher
2012 and 2013 Bahrain Grands Prix	Sebastian Vettel	Kimi Raikkonen	Romain Grosjean

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Pos.	Driver	Points	vs. 2012
1	Sebastian Vettel	77	+24
2	Kimi Raikkonen	67	+33
3	Lewis Hamilton	50	+1
4	Fernando Alonso	47	+4
5	Mark Webber	32	-16
6	Felipe Massa	30	+28
7	Romain Grosjean	26	+3
8	Paul di Resta	20	+5
9	Nico Rosberg	14	-21
10	Jenson Button	13	-30
11	Sergio Perez	10	-12
12	Adrian Sutil	6	n/a
13	Daniel Ricciardo	6	+4
14	Nico Hulkenberg	5	+3
15	Jean-Eric Vergne	1	-3
16	Valtteri Bottas	0	n/a
17	Pastor Maldonado	0	-4
18	Esteban Gutierrez	0	n/a
19	Jules Bianchi	0	n/a
20	Charles Pic	0	n/a
21	Giedo van der Garde	0	n/a
22	Max Chilton	0	n/a

Column 1	Column 2	Column 3	Column 4
Pos.	Team	Points	vs. 2012
1	Red Bull	109	+8
2	Lotus	93	+36
3	Ferrari	77	+32
4	Mercedes	64	+27
5	Force India	26	+9
6	McLaren	23	-69
7	Toro Rosso	7	+1
8	Sauber	5	-26
9	Williams	0	-18
10	Marussia	0	0
11	Caterham	0	0

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