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Because race car driver!! Lol

 

He almost got himself and Alonso hit doing that! :eek6:

 

Because someone says the race was a bit of a bore because Vettel and Team Red Bull buried the field again is not hate, it's just a fact. I for one think Vettel and Team Red Bull may very well be the best pairing in history, they are at least the very best under this set of rules...heck they are playing at a totally different level than everyone else right now..

I also expect them to be the team to beat next year with the new cars... But it would be swell to see some others step up and make a race of it, make Vettel have to beat them..

Can you imagine how frustrating it must me for Alonso with Ferrari behind him to basically have absolutely nothing for them. He even said yesterday on the podium that Red Bull is at such a different level that "second felt very much like a win for them."

I got nothing against Vettel.

 

My point is I don't think it's the car.....Mercedes, Lotus and Ferrari have all qualified ahead of Vettel and yet he beat them.

Webber is in the same exact car and he's mostly mid top tens.....

I agree that next year will be a whole new ball game, and it will be fun to watch!

 

Next year should be most interesting in many ways.

 

Schumacher in the day was very quick to tell you that it was a complete package, not just one or two pieces that won Championships.... Takes a great driver and a great car and team...

The greatest jockeys ever, got to that stature riding great horses with great trainers...never has one won the Kentucky Derby atop a mule.

 

I am more a fan of drivers first teams second. I started as a Mansell fan and loved watching him fight Sena and Prost. When he won his championship it was great. But he was in the best car in the field with all of the active devices on the car. The technology was amazing.

After Mansell retired I saw Schumi pull off some amazing drives (before he won any championships) and said this is the guy to watch. When he switch to Ferrari I became a Ferrari fan too. Ferrari designed the car around him. It is the natural thing to do for a team to insure the team/driver car win. The FIA had to keep changing the rules the try and stop Ferrari and Schumi from winning and finally did so with the 1 tire set for the entire race.

When I saw Vettel win for TR in the rain at Monza I said this the the guy to watch. Of course the team is going to build the car around the 3 time champion. It would be stupid for them not to.

So do the other teams design around their star driver? If not then they deserve what they get. For Ferrari, are they to pick one or the other driver to design around or the grand compromise?

 

I'm not sure you all should just give this season to Vettel......two DNF's with two wins by Alonso and the championship is up for grabs......and with the transmission troubles they'd had lately, it can happen.

However, if it doesn't, it's hard to write off Alonso for runner up.....if not him then one of the Benz boys. Seems like Hammy wants it more than Rosebug.

 

Agreed. Unless it rains. Then it is all up for grabs.

 

I think Bottas could be a new one to watch. If he stays with Williams I hope they get the car running better. If Brawn goes there it could be really great.

 

Yes, well, I guess if you pay the sponsorship, you are entitled to some advertising.....

 

Minardi questions Vettel's Singapore superiority

Almost a week after the Singapore Grand Prix, former team owner Gian Carlo Minardi has admitted to being mystified by certain aspects of Sebastian Vettel's dominance during the race.

"Waiting for the Korean GP, I would like to bring back all the wonderful memories linked to my experience at the Marina Bay Street Circuit and make some remarks about the Singapore GP, which I'd like to share and try to find some answers," writes the Italian. "I was enthralled by Singapore," he continues. "It was a brand new experience, which was completely different from any other experience I was used to. I had the chance to monitor all drivers' on-track deeds from a suite located at the end of the pit straight (which leads to the first chicane). The monitor I used to watch the race displayed also all drivers' lap times. Since I left Singapore however, I've been keeping in my mind the 2.5 sec advantage of Vettel over his teammate Webber and the other drivers.

"It's not my intention to devalue Sebastian Vettel, who always manages his Red Bull the best way and I don't want even to jab at anyone, I just want to tell what I personally saw and heard during that three-day-event. According to my experience, I think that a 2.5 sec advantage each lap is really too much. It's like a three-generation development gap, it's a huge gap. Furthermore, the time gap between Vettel and Grosjean in FP3 and the Red Bull driver and Rosberg in qualifying was only few tenths. The German driver could have played cat and mouse on Saturday, anyway, something is still not clear for me.

"From my suite, I chose some mainstays as a reference point in order to monitor and compare the drivers' way of driving. My mainstays were the kerbstones located on the corner which leads to Republic Boulevard. Their function is to avoid passing on the kerb. I was impressed by Vettel's neat way of driving on that stretch of the track. He was able to drive all that stretch without making any corrections, unlike all his rivals (also his teammate). His lap time was also remarkable in T3, which is the track's sector with the highest concentration of corners.

"On the same stretch, Sebastian was able to speed up 50 m before any other driver, Webber included. Whilst all the other drivers speeded up on the same stretch, Vettel was able to speed up before them. The thing that surprised me the most was the engine's output sound. Besides speeding up 50 m before any other driver, the Renault engine of the German's car grinded like no other French engines on track, neither like Mark's. That sound was similar to the sound made by the engine when the traction control system got into action in the past seasons.

"Furthermore, that sound was only heard when Vettel chalked up his excellent performances. For example, after the safety car went off, he took a great re-start and chalked up many excellent laps, gaining a 32 sec. gap over Alonso, then he leveled off, taking precautions in the case he would have had to pit one more time. In those moments the Renault engine was more powerful than any other engines (Renault and other brands).

"There are some aspects, Vettel's very neat way of driving, Vettel's speedup 50 m before the other drivers, the abnormal sound of the Renault engine and Vetter's more than 2 sec. advantage over his rivals that make me think and I would like to have some answers. All those doubts are even more serious if we consider that Webber wasn't able to do that, since he's a common human being… I don't want to blame anyone , I just would like to get into the deep of the matter."

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Thoughts?

 

Wonder how much it cost in development to get 2.5 seconds a lap? Driver being equal.

 

He says he likes how Vettel could drive a section without corrections that the other drives did. But some how driving smoother therefor faster must be because of tracking control.

When I read this article else where it was added that Vettel tends to drive one foot on the gas and one on the break to be able to control wheel spin. So how is the FIA going to ban that one???

 

They all left foot brake in F1, why most the drivers come out of carting, their left foots have been sensitized over the years. Now Sebastion is a master at it, but the technique Is not his alone.... Heck even this not very good amateur uses the left foot brake and the gas peddle at the same time in certain places on certain tracks....

Minardi may be sour graping but his observations are sound.