F1 F1 - 2013

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  1. Minidave

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    Yeah, even the winner said he screwed up, but does that mean he's going to hold back and let his teammate take the next one?

    I highly doubt it.....better to ask forgiveness than permission seems to be his philosophy......and at the end of the season, the number of wins will still be noted, but no one will remember the method.

    There was controversy with the 3rd and 4th place finishers too, but I think there are things we as spectators are not privy to, clearly they had a reason for holding him back, whether he likes it or not.

    And bottom line, the drivers work for the team, not the other way round.
     
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    Well Vettel show his immaturity(spoiled) again, "I'm faster tell him to let my pass" if your faster then pass them with DRS and KERS.
     
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    Heck, Webber pulled out and gave him all kinds of room on the inside for the pass...

    ...not. :crazy:

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    No picture, but I saw 53 once.
     
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    ^^^ Saw that too.
     
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    Possibly NSFW images here....

    Webber shows Vettel he's number 1.

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTn5nd2CVJs"]Angry Webber Shows Middle Finger to Vettel Onboard - 2013 Malaysia - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Every body looked a little uncomfortable after the race. I think it's sad that the team have to pull back on their drivers because the %$#* tires might go.

    Did anyone notice how much the tires are leaning over on the sidewalls in the slow-mo. A lot more than last year. It really illustrates the advantage of shorter sidewalls.
     
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    Yeah, it's pretty daft that a (the?) premier series of motorsport is stuck with high aspect-ratio tyres because that's what they've always had and it's too difficult to change. You can see why other tyre companies would only bid for the F1 tyre contract (Michelin springs to mind?) if they were allowed to change to low profile tyres, but that would result in too much else changing, like brakes and suspension, all of which would be a cost the teams didn't want to pay.
     
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    I'm kinda over the tyre controversy myself. It's up to the teams and drivers to work with what they're given. All the talk from the teams about going back to last years' spec, or Red Bull being penalized is just whinging, imo.

    Besides, you can't deny that so far this year has been interesting so far. Moping on the podium notwithstanding. ;)
     
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    They change the complete suspension settings just about every race don't they? For that matter, they change them in between practice sessions in some cases!

    I know many teams go to a different design every season, some change within the season.

    I agree that going to a tire that more accurately reflects what's used on street driven cars would make sense, after all isn't F1 supposed to be bleeding edge technology that eventually finds it's way onto street cars?

    However, this is one area where I'd like to see street driven cars follow F1, back to higher aspect ratio tires and away from the rubber bands they're using now. And away from these ginormous wheels.....

    A good 13" wheel is SO much lighter than a 20" or 22", think of the unsprung weight savings! It also takes less energy to get them to turn (rotate), and since they're lighter everything associated with them can be lighter.

    Like Chapman said, "Add lightness"!
     
  11. Nathan

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    McLaren's Twitter Feed has the following

    "Feel free to pop in and say "hi" any time, @LewisHamilton!"
     
  12. Steve

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    And here's Blackmore's special edition pit crew spotter guide.

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    So do you think that pit crew spotter guide will be taped inside Hamilton's cock pit next to the track map for the next few races?
     
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    No, but I bet the McLaren mechanics can be found in the hotel bar wearing tee-shirts with a suitable slogan - "Lewis, please drive by" or similar....
     
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    I've now worked my way through all the 2nd Gen wheel/tyre sizes from 15 through 16 to 17 and there's no doubt that the bigger wheels with wider tyres provide more grip. And this is on British roads with really poor surfaces (think Detroit). There's no doubt the 15s ride more sweetly and the 17s are more 'crashy', but even on a bad road the extra grip of the 17 provides better roadholding despite its inability to follow the road surface perfectly.

    But then since I wanted a car optimised for poor roads, I don't order Minis with sports suspension since I want the greater compliance of the stock setup.
     
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    Button pulled into the Red Bull pits during the 2011 Chinese Grand Prix, Lewis is not alone in this maneuver.
     
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    Just this part.

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    ...or maybe this.

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    Red Bull: Vettel's actions deliberate (Racer.com)
     

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