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  1. Steve

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    My guess is they're pressure sensors used to measure airflow over/around the tires.
     
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    #where'sroscoe is a bit of a jab at Mercedes from the Lotus boys. Roscoe is Hamilton's bulldog, complete with his own official pit pass and credentials, so since Hamilton and Mercedes were not allowed to take part in the young driver testing, Roscoe wasn't there....
     
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    Measuring airflow too maybe?
     
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    Yep, airflow sensors. There was a video posted late last year from a racecar engineering magazine (?) that showed and explained a lot of what goes on when testing an F1 car.
     
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    Though I like F1 now, I'm certain I also would have liked it if I'd been a fan in the '70s despite the huge differences. Here's just one of many reasons I'm sure this is true.

    Look at video an F1 grid just before a race start today and it just feels different than the feeling I get looking at this photo. I get a real racing vibe and they're not even moving!

    It's not because these were the heroes or hero cars of my youth or whatever because I didn't really watch or follow F1 until the mid-late '90s. Can't be the drivers, you can't see them and there's no motion to show their influence (and it's not a photo finish, it's a race start). I've never been a Tifossi, the Tyrrell only has four wheels and I didn't watch these cars or these races.

    A picture paints a thousand words? This one just screams one word at me: RACING!!

    Jacky Ickx and Clay Regazzoni in the Ferraris and Jacky Stewart in a Tyrrell at the start of the 1971 French GP:

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    It's better yet at a larger scale but you might need to be on Twitter to see this ... maybe: https://twitter.com/RACERmag/status/358100853661503490/photo/1
     
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    I've always loved the look of that era's cars.

    They scream SPEED at the top of their lungs, and don't care who's listening.
     
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    That was the year I really got into F-1! You could walk right up to the cars in the paddock.
     
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    FIA confirms reduced pit lane speed limit (GPUpdate.net)
     
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    Well that's going to mess with pit times. You get a 2.7 second stop and instead of 19 seconds total, you get 22 or 23. Seb's going to need to widen his gaps a bit more if he doesn't want to get overtaken when getting tire changes.
     
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    They'll all have the same deltas per stop. This will make a bigger difference though when one driver does more stops than another.
     
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    Yeah, so when the easy-on-its-tires Lotus driven by Kimi on a two-stop is 19 seconds behind Seb's tire-eater* on lap 50 of 60....

    Might make for some interesting final stints :)

    *that's really not fair of me, Seb's great at getting good life from his tires, though Red Bull has been the loudest critic of this years' compounds wearing out faster.
     
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    F1 in Europe not finished yet: Red Bull Bankrolls Austrian GP Return (JamesAllenonF1.com)
     
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    Long read, but interesting.

    Full article here

    How do you drive a supercomputer round a Formula 1 track?
     
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    CVC looking outside F1 for Ecclestone’s replacement (nbcsports.com)
     
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    Technical analysis of the Young Drivers's tests. You get to see some of those areo sensors in action.

    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRad8lLHRjU"]F1 2013 Young Drivers Test - Technical Analysis HD - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Ecclestone confirms 20 race calendar (GPUpdate.net)
     
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    With only a few days to go to Hungary, it's time for the Wild Speculation Game!

    Seb's not won at Hungary before, but the tire changes will probably be good for Red Bull. Look for a pole and maybe a win.

    Lotus does well in the heat, and this weekend is supposed to be a scorcher. Expect Lotus to be a strong contender for this weekend.

    Ferrari will also favor the new tires. Is there a chance at a podium? Possibly. Alonso is going to give it his all.

    Mercedes is going to be the big loser this weekend. They might qualify well as usual, but will not have the pace to finish in the top 10. Heat is their enemy, and there's going to be a lot of it. Any points at all will be a challenge.

    Look for Daniel Riccardo's Toro Rosso in the top ten. I'm guessing a 6 or 7 finish.

    Force India will put in a strong showing, but can they make the top 5? It seems unlikely to me. More likely if they're in the points it'll be near the back.

    Sauber... well... with any luck this won't be their last race this season, but there's a chance they may drop out after the summer factory shutdown that's happening after this race. I've read that there might be some financial salvation for them though.

    McLaren is a non-issue for the rest of this season. They're stopping development on this years' cars and are putting all their efforts into the 2014 cars. If they score it will be by luck and drivers' skills. This is a miserable season for them.

    Williams has also had a bad season, and has made some internal staffing changes. Don't expect too much from them this weekend though.

    And the backmarkers - I think Caterham's going to maintain their slight edge over Marussia, though they both have some talented drivers. Pic and Bianchi might get some good wheel to wheel action that will never be shown on TV.
     
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    You think the 17 year old Russian will come to Sauber's rescue? What is the exchange rate for руб's these days? (edit - 310 / $) I think it would take a dumptruck full of them to help Sauber.......

    I agree that absent something unusual like rain, retirements or crash, it will be business as usual.

    I would not be surprised to see Kimi on the top step, and it he does, his signature will be on a Red Bull contract for next year before we come back from the summer break.

    My 2¢.........
     
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    Not the kid, but the $500,000,000 they may have gotten with him. IF the deal gets finalized. I think half a billion dollars counts as a "dumptruck" ;)

    Marussia not upset by Sauber's Russian deal | News | Motorsport.com

     
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    Loose wheels to result in 10-place grid drop (GPUpdate.net)
     

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