F1 F1 - 2013

Well, assuming the race happens :/


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfYPg7b1Y44]India 3D Track Experience - YouTube[/ame]

 

Simply put: "They are in the zone."

 

On FB this morning.

 

If the floor needs to be in contact with the track to generate the heat to make his idea work then when it functions it moves away from the track. It would cool back off ( aluminum cools quickly) and go back down. This would make it go up and down when the desire is to keep it constant. This would cause a lot of instability.

The floor could be moving by heat as he explains but the heat has to be coming from somewhere else, not the scraping the floor.

 

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1. Sebastian Vettel 2. Nico Rosberg 3. Lewis Hamilton 4. Mark Webber 5. Felipe Massa 6. Kimi Räikkönen 7. Nico Hulkenberg 8. Fernando Alonso 9. Sergio Perez 10. Jenson Button

 

Hope there is a good race for 2nd.....

 

Yep.....from BBC F1:

Pirelli has asked Formula 1 teams to limit running on the tyres in Sunday's Indian Grand Prix on safety grounds.

Teams have been asked not to use the 'soft' tyre for more than 15 laps and the 'medium' for no more than 35 laps.

Governing body the FIA is refusing to order the teams to follow the advice.

But if any teams goes beyond the limit and hit problems they could be brought before the stewards and asked why they ran their cars in a dangerous configuration.

It is the latest in a series of controversies to hit Pirelli this season that have tested the patience of teams and senior F1 figures.

The company was forced to change the design of its tyres after a series of dramatic failures during the British Grand Prix.

At this weekend's Indian Grand Prix, the 'soft' tyre has been suffering severe degradation after just handful of laps.

The tyres are suffering blistering - when the surface overheats and bubbles - after just three or four laps, leading to a loss of pace of as much as three or four seconds a lap.

One senior engineer at a top team said this was the worst blistering ever experienced with the Pirelli tyres since the company entered F1.

The FIA does not want to force the teams to comply with Pirelli's limits because race director Charlie Whiting feels it is unfair to force teams whose cars have better tyre life to be reduced to the lowest common denominator.

The teams all have means of measuring tyre life live during the race and feels they should be trusted to do so.

Pirelli is also disagreeing with the teams over its desire to do more testing to prepare tyres for next season, when the cars and engines will be different following a major regulation change.

Pirelli motorsport director Paul Hembery said in India this weekend: "We have to do some testing. If we cannot, then we will not be able to provide the tyres for next year."

But the teams are frustrated with Pirelli because it is refusing to pay the costs for the tests it wants to do. So far, Pirelli has only offered to pay for circuit hire.

Teams point out that F1 cars cost hundreds of pounds a lap to run, so a three-day test in which teams cover hundreds of laps would cost them tens of thousands of pounds or more at a time when costs in F1 are a major concern.

Pirelli has been told if it wants to do extra testing they must pay the entire costs of the teams involved.

 

I enjoyed the race.




































It was for 3rd place not second.

 

After the first turn fun, RG's drive to the podium was the only real excitement until Vettel did his Tony Stewart imitation at the end...got up at 5:00am to watch it too...

Are we witnessing greatness? Yes, the combo of Vettel and team Red Bull may be the best ever...but it sure makes the racing boring sometimes... Vettel had over two seconds on the field after the first lap...

Maybe I should have been looking for polka dot ties....

Congrats team Red Bull, well done indeed!!

 

I'm sure Webba can't wait for this season to end! I also found myself rooting for Massa and Checo at the end of the race.

 

I think I figured out Red Bull's /Vettel's secret. It answers the questions of why Webber isn't as fast and why it showed after the tire change.

As mentioned in an article above the earlier tires didn't grow as the speed increased and the current ones do. This allows a lower front ride height that can compensate for the squash of the down force. The lower front height increases the over all down force that wasn't there with the earlier tires. The Red Bull has always had a lot of rake to the car which can add to the down force as the whole car acts like a diffuser.

The problem has been pointed out that as the rear is raised the actual diffuser is less effective because of leakage from the side. The way the exhaust is channeled on the Red Bull as well as others can help seal the sides of the diffuser but only while the exhaust is flowing. So not in the turns.

Here's the tricky part. Minardi said the Seb was on the gas earlier than anyone else so he had to have traction control. But in reality he did get on it earlier to cause the exhaust to flow, sealing the diffuser, and providing more rear down force. In turn allowing him to get on it even more.

The kicker is that you have to have the kind of fearlessness and trust that comes with youth to get on the gas when everything else says don't do it. Webber is older and just doesn't have that anymore. The car is all legal for hardware and software.

So fellow F1 tech gurus where is my theory wrong?

 

Good observation!!

Me thinks they have a trick limited slip, I still keep going back to those perfectly alternating black marks drawn on the pavement by Seb's Red Bull.

 

I see, youthful exuberance triumphs over old age & treachery. Hmmmm more to it than that me thinks.....

 

The reason Seb could put 2.5 sec a lap on the field is that he knew he was only going to run 2 laps on those tires, so he wasn't worried about making them last....

but it was fun to see him carve thru the field on the mediums once he got them on, turning laps faster than guys on the softs!

The race was full of passing thru out the field.

Poor Mock Webba....I've said it before, if it wasn't for bad luck....... Of course yet another pretty bad start didn't help him any, but I doubt that had anything to do with his alternator failing and putting him out - just like Seb's did in an earlier race.

It's been said several times by the announcers that the Red Bull was designed around Seb's driving style, I guess it just doesn't suit Mock's, so I wonder how Ricky Ricarrdo will do with it next season?

 

I too wonder how Ricardo will manage next year. If he can come to grips with the new car it could be very interesting.