1st Gen R53 Cooper S Finally, Gen1 Power Steering Delete Kit Available Soon!!!!!

Discussion in '1st Generation: 2002–06 R50, R53 & 2004–08 R52' started by minsanity, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. Zillon

    Zillon Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, I'm curious about this too.

    That being said, typically non-power racks use a higher ratio box to compensate for the lack of assist. Having driven cars with a broken PS belt in the past, I know how hard it is to turn a car with a broken/disabled pump, so I'm curious to see how it drives with a more proper delete kit.
     
  2. Crashton

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    I can't imagine liking a MINI with no power steering. If you go for this better hit the Gym & build up those biceps. Lots of race & rally cars now have power steering. Well most of them really.
     
  3. cct1

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    I asked Jan about it, he said don't do it...I'm holding off. If my pump goes, then maybe I'll try it, otherwise I'm just watching from the sidelines.
     
  4. Eric@Helix

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    Having driven many cars with faulty pumps, don't do it.
     
  5. ColinGreene

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    I know someone whos driven their mini from some very low amount of miles to 150k on no PS, I cant say i would reccomend it.
    I also know someone else that tried to drive the car at the dragon with no ps and wound up working the wheel so hard it broke the steering wheel bolt loose. Chad wound up fixing it.
     
  6. Metalman

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    From what I read earlier in the thread the spacers allow free movement of the rack... You aren't working against a closed system with a non functional pump that would add resistance to the steering....

    Need more feedback from actual users... IMHO
     
  7. MCS02

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    I guess I don't get it. I am WAY to lazy to live with out my PS!
     
  8. BlimeyCabrio

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    Correct, that's the whole point. With the delete adapter, it's supposed to be very different than just working against a non-functional pump. But, by no means easy.
     
  9. ColinGreene

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    I still would not do it.
    I like my noodle Arms
     
  10. Zillon

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    MINI driver after deleting the PS:

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  11. Dave.0

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    I have the PS delete and my car is fine.

    The reason is I never installed it on the advice of others (Eric, Marzo, Jan, Colin) so its sitting in my tool box collecting dust.
     
  12. minsanity

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    The kit's purpose was never to replace a working pump. More a temp fix for those tight budgeted...or a perma 1 for the muscled hobos.:)
    Again, no1 said steering will be as good as having power assist, but it won't be as hard as having a dead pump in.:)
     
  13. cct1

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    Now that this has been installed a few times and the smoke has cleared, this is the single most useful post in this thread. The power steering delete has it's place; you just have to make sure it's right (or not right) for your situation.
     
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    My PS pump was busking me this morning. Might be real interested later today.
     
  15. minsanity

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    So, have you installed?
     
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    All of these posts about driving cars with dead power steering miss the point. Dead power steering adds a tremendous effort to steering as it requires you to force fluid through the dead pump.. Power steering delete adds a small amount due to the quicker ratio of power as opposed to manual steering. There IS no fluid being forced through the dead pump, so there IS no basis for comparing this setup to dead power steering.
     
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    #157 Msfitoy, May 1, 2017
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    :lol::lol::lol:...I read the whole thread and had the feeling what the outcome would be...try moving your Mini after a few beers...Seriously though, the reason I wouldn't do this is when you have to countersteer quickly when the back end breaks loose unexpectedly...not to mention the extra stress which is necessarily inputted through the steering UJ pre-rack which may not have been designed to take up this extra load continuiously.
     
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    did this ever get done?
     
  19. rkw

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    What do you mean by "get done"? The kit became available 3 years ago and a link to the vendor was posted way back.
     
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