From a Fiat site - 75 Great Reasons to choose Fiat 500 over the BMW Mini

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  1. Nathan

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    75 Great Reasons to choose Fiat 500 over the BMW Mini
    – by John Montgomery, Fiat Lancia Unlimited, Untitled Document

    Overall Comparison, Fiat 500 vs. Mini:

    1. The Fiat 500 base price MSRP is $4600 less (-23%) than the base BMW Mini MSRP.
    2. The Fiat has a 5 star European NCAP rating for driver & passenger safety. Mini has a 4 star rating on driver & passenger safety. Mini has 5 stars for rollover protection only.
    3. The Fiat has better aerodynamic CD; Fiat: .35, base Mini: .37, Cooper S: .39
    4. The Fiat base weight is 352 pounds less than the Mini’s base weight.
    5. The Fiat’s maximum passenger/cargo capacity is 970 lbs., 154 lbs more than Mini’s 816 lbs.
    6. The Fiat’s 34.8 ft. turning radius is 3 foot tighter than the Mini’s 38 ft.
    7. The Fiat’s ground clearance is 4.1 inches; the Mini’s ground clearance is 5.5â€.
    8. The Fiat has lower insurance rates than the Mini yet the same warranty; 4 years, 50K miles.
    9. The Fiat has 3 year 36K free maintenance, includes car rental and is transferable!
    10. The Fiat suspension sub frame is attached w/o rubber isolators that could fatigue or wear out.
    11. Fiat has a standard theft alarm, but it’s a $500 option on BMW Mini.
    12. Fiat parts prices compare lower in price than BMW Mini parts.

    Exterior Comparison:

    13. Fiat has 14 exterior colors but only two are $500 extra. Mini: 7 of 10 colors are $500 extra!
    14. The Fiat is taller overall with more upright seating position for better road view than the Mini.
    15. Fog lights on Fiat Sport & Lounge are standard. Fog lights for base Mini cost $250.
    16. The Fiat Lounge has fixed glass sunroof standard. Mini has no such thing.
    17. The Fiat electric sunroof is an $850 option but the Mini sunroof option costs $1000.
    18. The Fiat has quieter DBA noise level at idle and at speed on the road.
    19. The Fiat has lower emissions than the Mini as well as lowest in class.
    20. The Fiat has Bi-Halogen Headlights with daytime running lights.

    Interior Comparison:

    21. The Fiat has more space within the wheelbase devoted to passenger room.
    22. Fiat drivers fit up to the 90th percentile adult, up to 6’ 1†without bumping headliner.
    23. Fiat rear seat passengers cover a 70th percentile, up to 5’9 without bumping liner.
    24. The Fiat has more rear seat leg room, Fiat 32.2â€, Mini has 29.9â€
    25. The Fiat 500 has 6.5 cubic foot more trunk space than the Mini’s 5.7 cu. ft.
    26. The Fiat has a longer luggage floor w/ seats upright, even though it’s shorter outside.
    27. The Fiat 500 has a longer luggage floor with the seats folded down too!
    28. The Fiat holds 30 cu. ft. of cargo w/ seats folded down; the base Mini only 24 cu. ft.
    29. The Fiat’s front passenger seat in base model has a storage compartment. Mini does not.
    30. The Fiat has an outboard top seatback lever and in board lower lever for rear passenger egress.
    31. Centralized pod instrument bezel on the Fiat is directly in front of the driver, not on Mini.
    32. Fiat driver levers; switches & controls are much easier to reach than the BMW Mini.
    33. Fiat drivers do not need to turn their head to see the heater controls, only look down.
    34. The Fiat gear shifter is closer at hand than the Mini with a very short throw.
    35. The Fiat center armrest is standard; the Mini center armrest is a $250 option.
    36. Fiat offers heated seats & mirrors for less than Mini’s $750 cold weather combo package.
    37. The Fiat 500 has an HVAC system with micron air filter for the cabin, even on base models.
    38. The 500 offers “equivalent temperature†sensors, changing settings based on inside and outside conditions of temperature, humidity and airflow.
    39. Fiat drivers do not need to turn their head to see the heater controls, only look down.
    40. The Fiat includes an air compressor for tires as standard equipment.
    41. Tom-Tom docking feature on Fiat eliminates wires or plug-ins to cigar lighter.
    42. The Fiat offers superior “Blue & Me†interactive link w/ steering wheel controls & USB port.
    43. Fiat’s Blue & Me system is $400 option, but a similar system is a $1750 package on the Mini.
    44. The Fiat has “Eco-Driveâ€, a down load application to review driving habits.
    45. The Fiat BOSE 6 speaker Audio system requires 50% less energy & 30% smaller.
    46. The Fiat BOSE audio has amps under the front passenger seat, out of the way.

    Performance Comparison:

    47. The Fiat manual gets better mileage; the Fiat 30/38 MPG vs. Mini’s 28/37 MPG.
    48. The Fiat does not require premium fuel. All Minis’ require at least 91 octane!
    49. The Fiat 500 has a better power to weight ratio than the Mini base 1.6 engines.
    50. The Fiat has patented Multi-Air valve technology, unavailable on the Mini.
    51. The Fiat Pop, Sport & Lounge all have a stainless steel exhaust system standard.
    52. The Fiat has hydraulic cam followers and never needs a valve adjustment.
    53. The Fiat 6 speed automatic is $1000 option; mates buying the Mini pay $1250.
    54. The Fiat automatic transmission has a one touch shifter + or -, the Mini does not.
    55. Fiat has a dashboard “Sport†switch to sharpen the steering and auto trans shift points.
    56. The Fiat has a 2 second “hill holder†that keeps manual car from rolling back.
    57. Fiat has traction control standard. It’s an option on base Mini for $250.
    58. The Fiat’s “HBA†hydraulic braking control compensates for pressure in panic stops and lowers actuation time for maximum braking force.
    59. Fiat braking “EBD†reads wheel speed data for faster brake response times.
    60. The Fiat “ESP†calculates wheel longitude and lateral grip, cutting in when wheel slip is beyond parameters by adjusting throttle input and opposite wheel brake bias.
    61. Fiat’s “ASR†reduces wheel slip at all speeds and adjusts torque for grip detected.

    Safety Comparison:

    62. The Fiat has 7 airbags standard while Mini has only 6. Fiat includes driver’s knee airbag.
    63. The Fiat has double seatbelt pretensions to tighten in a crash event sequence. Mini has only
    single belt pre-tensioners. All 4 Fiat seats include 3 point belts and reactive head restraints.
    64. The Fiat has a lower forward vision angle of 8%, Fiat driver sits more upright.
    65. The Fiat’s narrower “A†pillars are of high tensile steel for safety w/ better visibility.
    66. The Fiat front & rear seats have anti submarine devices to prevent sliding under belts.
    67. The Fiat has breakaway foot pedals in high impact frontal crashes to protect feet.
    68. The Fiat has soft energy impact hood area in case the car ever strikes a pedestrian.
    69. Fiat’s “FPS†fire prevention switch cuts off valve & inertia switch stops the electric fuel pump in a crash. It even works in a rollover crash.
    70. The Fiat’s interior trim is flame resistant. Mini does not use flame retardants.
    71. Fiat’s doors automatically lock at 12 MPH+. Mini’s have no speed related device.

    Heritage Comparison:

    72. Fiat since 1899 is an independent manufacturer. Mini was BMC, now owned by BMW.
    73. The original Fiat 500 appeared in 1957, the original Mini in 1959.
    74. The Fiat 500 is sold in 90 countries; the BMW Mini… considerably less.
    75. Enzo Ferrari drove a Fiat to work daily. Enzo never drove a Mini. Ever.
     
  2. Minidave

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    75. Enzo Ferrari drove a Fiat to work daily. Enzo never drove a Mini. Ever

    I have a picture that will prove this is wrong. Somewhere......

    Even so, it still does not make me want to buy one, but it does give them some talking points.
     
  3. Nathan

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    Enzo and Alec

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    Enzo exiting a Mini

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    71. Fiat’s doors automatically lock at 12 MPH+. Mini’s have no speed related device.

    Mine locks at about 10mph. It's something that is programmable.
     
  4. farkus

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    33. Fiat drivers do not need to turn their head to see the heater controls, only look down.
    39. Fiat drivers do not need to turn their head to see the heater controls, only look down.

    :crazy:
     
  5. docv

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    You beat me to it I was going to say the same thing, that makes only 74 reasons to buy a 500.

    Thats a deal breaker for me.:frown2:
     
  6. minimark

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    #1 Reason not to buy a Fiat 500 over a Mini:

    It's a Fiat.
     
  7. Minidave

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    That second pic in particular was the one I was thinking of, however if that's an English version Mini, he was the passenger not the driver, so it still doesn't prove the inaccuracy of their claim. I remember reading years ago that he had a Mini that he preferred driving to and from work and in the city.

    Notice anything different about that car?

    See the driving lights mounted under the headlights, and the turn signals off to the side?
     
  8. carman63

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    We took one out for a test drive. It's not bad, for what it is. Once the Abarth gets here, I'll take another test drive.
    I can see having an Abarth and a JCW together.
     
  9. Nathan

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    From the Book - [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Mini-Cooper-Their-Story-1961-1971-Essential/dp/1870979869/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1302132208&sr=1-1"]Amazon.com: Mini-Cooper: The Cars and Their Story, 1961-1971 and 1990 To Date (Essential Series) (9781870979863): Anders Ditlev Clausager: [email protected]@[email protected]@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/[email protected]@[email protected]@51ZYY8T1G4L[/ame]

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  10. minimark

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    If not mistaken...didn't MC2 when running their series on the history of the Mini, publish a pic of Enzo with his Mini Cooper?
     
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    I know new Fiats are completely new animals, but we had two Fiats and I learned to drive in a 1972 Alfa Romeo Spyder. You'd literally have to give me the Fiat500 and pay the taxes on it for me to get one.
     
  12. Justa Jim

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    That is what some folks, most likely, said when the new MINI came out. Can't really play down the new 500, simply based on the old one. As you said, completely new animal. Sure, It will have its design problems at first and may not make it, but the R50 & R53 did as well. In fact, there are still MINI owners complaining about, what they call, the "cheap" interior of the R56.

    Jim
     
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    No words needed :prrr:

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    Now I like the roof line on this one though :Thumbsup:

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  15. CHKMINI

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    Is this one available???? I'll take 2!!! The Fiat?....no I'm not interested in the Fiat :D
     
  16. Justa Jim

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    I'll keep my eye on the chinquecento. Mark, you could not handle the other one, let alone two. :frown2:

    Jim
     
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    :eek6: A miniature squashed PT Cruiser:lol::Thumbsup:

    Jason:popcorn:
     
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    Is it just me or does this look vaguely familiar? A 1960 Renault or a 2011 Fiat, you decide. :ihih:
     
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    What roof line?
     
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    Don't let Jim know that the drag coefficient on the Justa is better than on the 'S'. He'll only gloat.
     

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