It takes more energy to split water into hydrogen and oxygen than the liberated hydrogen actually contains. Same for ethanol. It takes more energy to grow, harvest, and refine many grains than the finished ethanol contains.
And as far as letting the market decide what energy source to use. ..... I'd prefer that as a society we be more Proactive rather than Reactive. However I do agree that government decrees tend to be short sighted.
By the way. I grew up in the glow of the flare towers in "the Hook" as us locals called Marcus Hook. I worked at the Gulf refinery in South Philadelphia and other relatives worked at the Sun plant in Edystone. I do not miss the stink and smog.
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Thanks to Issac I watched the price of gas leap 20 cents today. Low on gas I saw the price for 93 was 3.87 at the BP while at the light across the intersection from the station. Pulled in and by the time I parked at the pump the price went to 4.17.
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Yeah it jumped twenty cents this morning here in OKC too. UGH. I filled up, and the guy walked out to change the signs while I was still pumping. I got lucky! However we're leaving tonight on a road trip to Atlanta. Guess I need to set aside extra money for gas than I had planned. *sigh*
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drabdub Well-Known Member
I think the price of 91 down the street from me is 4.27
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Jason Montague New MemberLifetime Supporter
:cornut: 93 octane today @ Mobil in Sherman,TX was $3.64/gal(for a fill up, no fill up $3.74/gal)
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Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
$4.10 today for Shell 93
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ScottinBend Space CowboySupporting Member
Sheesh........back to 4.49 for Chev 93 for me
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Firebro17 Dazed, but not ConfusedLifetime Supporter
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I paid $4.35 here at home for premium the other day. I spent $4.31 in Paso yesterday... What a see-saw.
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Firebro17 Dazed, but not ConfusedLifetime Supporter
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I snapped this pic at the pumps this morning while filling up for a morning foothill cruise. Yep, it reads $4.99.9 Gotta love it!
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Firebro17 Dazed, but not ConfusedLifetime Supporter
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Prices sure have dropped recently here in Ohio. Paid $3.39 for 93 at a Shell yesterday. Predictions are that due to low demand, higher inventories and winter gas blends coming online the price will fall even more.
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$3.39? Haven't seen that in a longgggg time here, can't even remember that price? Just spent $4.29 for Premium yesterday, and that was at Costco, add another .30 on to that if going to Shell or Chevron
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$3.39/gal? Luxury. Just filled up with Shell 93 for $1.37/Litre. Yeah, that's $5.18 per gallon! :sad:
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$8.50 a US gallon of diesel here. Though getting about 40 USmpg even when cruising at 80 mph and nearly 50 USmpg around town helps. Oh, and did I mention 220 ft-lb of torque?.......
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Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
I paid $4.15 a gallon yesterday for Sunoco 93.
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