Heres my problem with a 40+ k Mini that should be a performance car https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=496792093&zip=38135&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D38135%26minPrice%3D1000%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26maxPrice%3D70000%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26makeCodeList%3DFER%26searchRadius%3D0&minPrice=1000&numRecords=25&maxPrice=70000&firstRecord=0&makeCodeList=FER&searchRadius=0&makeCode1=FER&modelCode1=308&clickType=listing 308 GTS $40,500......All day every day! If you move up to 60K there a lot of very nice cars out there. If the GP is going to be 40+K it needs to be the prototype, or very very close
Sorry but I can get a much better built and reliable Porsche Cayman for that money with an excellent PDK trans or stick.
but keep in mind there is a big difference in buying a 40 year old Ferrari and a $40,000 New MINI for the person who isn't just flat loaded with money... The maintenance and repairs on it compared to the MINI if both driven much will be thru the roof... I would compare it to other new cars like a M2 BMW, Mustang GT, 370z etc... or if I had 40,000 just laying around a Factory Five Cobra Replica all new everything so it'd be like a new car with warranty actually...
A 308 GTSi would have cost around $45,000 when it was introduced in 1980, which isn't too far off what they go for today. And of course, $45,000 in 1980 translates to about $140,000 in 2017 money.Jul 18, 2017 Sorry but a 308 is a slow pile of poo. I don’t think they make much over 200 BHP if that. Yes, they look cool but that’s about it. The timing belt issues and the build quality of those cars are very questionable. If you find one for a very low price it has high milage, 62,000 is high milage for a Ferrari, and issue they are not telling you about. Oh, and it’s still slow. Power output USA: 233 PS (171 kW; 230 bhp) and 255 N⋅m (188 lbf⋅ft) of torque
Any auto when being pushed at full song then being downshifted or being held in a gear through a turn will automatically upshift. This a protection against stupid people driving. Bogging down anyone that actually knows what they are doing. When it comes to an AutoX or track day (as it was meant to be used) It's hunting for gears (lots of gears to decide on) and/or bogging the car down. Unless you are drag racing a slushbox auto is not a good transmission for going fast. Add in the fact it will most likely add 100-200 lbs of weight in the nose of an already front-heavy car that is even more stupid.
Although old both of my hands, both of my feet and both of my knees still function. The brain is not as sharp or quick as it once was but still good enough to a drive stick and take corners fast enough to get the adrenaline pumping. In like five years if things have changed I might be interested in a used GP3 with an auto . . . . . . The marketing of the car is just pure genius. "We cannot tell you what horsepower, what transmission or really anything other than it will say MINI, but, if you want one in another year and half you need to go sign up NOW!"
Or you could just buy this used for less. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2014-porsche-cayman-s-9/ Or this one which is a much better car all around. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2012-porsche-cayman-r-9/
It is interesting marketing, not releasing the specs of the car. Certainly creating a lot of buzz. At MOTD, a GP2 owner had his up for sale as he already put a deposit on one. He said the dealer has given him a range from 40's to 65K.. i.e. he doesn't actually know what the price will be yet.
I chose that 308 for its price. There are several Ferrari’s for sale for under 60k on autotrader. Yes stock they don’t have much horsepower, nothing from the 80’s did but it is not poo. I have driven them, they are very fun cars that handle well. The difference in it and a GP is I won’t lose money on a Ferrari. I know how to work on them, that’s my background before I decided to fly. The last place I worked for was a Maserati dealer, as a mechanic. I agree with everyone’s post. But given my situation there other cars I would spend my money on in the 40-60k range
I asked at my local dealer. They said they had no information about them yet and MINI USA hasn't even told the dealers if they will get any allocated to them at all. They also said it's against policy to take deposits on cars, on which, they can't confirm delivery. So that guy has a deposit on a phantom.
I guess, but I can say when I asked my dealer they said they had 5 people on the "list"... granted I didn't ask if they had taken deposits or not. Either way, that guy was confident enough on getting one he had his up for sale at a pretty reasonable price ($20K). Miles was pretty low also if I remember correct.