Yeah...probably have to spend 3X as much to get that. 6speed, 385 ponies, 3000lbs. :drool https://www.pca.org/news/2015-02-03/porsche-unveils-cayman-gt4
Don't think it will happen. Looks like the FoST weighs in at a little more than 3200lbs. I did look up the two direct competitors to see what they weigh: 2015 Golf R - 3340 (base level 2015 GTI weighs 2972) 2015 STI - 3386
I like my car to much to get rid of it for a Ford. If you what a Ford then just buy it and keep the Mini so you don't regret it later.
ST is 3223. RS will probably be 3300ish. Waited until the last second on this, and punted. The MINI will be soon on it's way to Irvine instead, I'd rather blow my money there.
I don't care what badge is on it. Still a focus. I wouldn't trade my 10 year old jcw for that piece of garbage.
I have my MINI and my wife has the ST. So you would buy an ST or RS because it's a Focus. So no WRX or STI because they're Impresas, no EVOs because they are Lancers, no M3 because they are 318s, no Golf R because they're Golfs... The current generation of Focus is completely different then the old ones and the ST is a huge step up from the base car. Go drive one, scare the salesman, then come back. No I won't give up my MINI for it. But it nicer on long trips.
same here I have my MINI and ST(don't have a wife). who know I might trade the ST in for the RS but you guy is right is still a Focus :crazy: as for me I like my MINI > ST
Just a rumor, we can only hope. At the weight they're at, it wouldn't be too hard to get the Fiesta faster than the RS...
You are right on a couple of counts with the cars above. Frankly, the Focus and current WRX/STI's are just horribly ugly cars, in my opinion. Also, I wouldn't want a hopped-up version of what began as an economy-minded, grocery-geter car. That's just me. The Mini has always been a blast to drive, and look at in any trim level. They were designed from day one to be really fun to motor in, driver's cars....The Focus...not so much.... they can put as much horsepower, suspension pieces, and scoops/spoilers/vents they want on the car....it's a Ford Focus...
I know my taste and style and I don't care how much power a car makes or its fuel economy. If the car is ugly or it has 4 doors I am not buying it. I modify every car I buy and I have a standard for style that I have to start with before I make it my unique style.
I get where you are coming from, but I don't agree with it. In fact, this is EXACTLY why Ford didn't bring the first RS over, this perception. It's not "just" a Ford Focus. The car is phenomenal at what it does on the track, in way that it's a totally different animal than a stock Focus. It is a purpose built car that shines at what it was designed for, with some revolutionary technology thrown in along the way. It may look like a Focus on the outside (and I agree 100% a Focus isn't the best looking hatch out there, and I wish Ford would have done more to distinguish it from the ST, more along the lines of the original RS), but it's totally different beast on the inside. It's why the numbers are going to be severely limited in the U.S., but there are going to be a few hardcore people who will desire it, and that's who it's built for--people who want it for a specific purpose, rather than what it resembles. And admittedly this is a relatively small number of people, and I realize fully mine is a minority opinion. I was on the top of the list for our local dealer, until they sold the dealership a couple of years ago, but I would have passed on it. Mainly because this looks like the bottom of the line RS; I STRONGLY suspect there are even more powerful RS's in the works, maybe an RS 500 type of thing, and a detuned ecoboost, which is essentially what Ford has done, really pisses me off.
All the kids at work are so excited that Mr Block was involved???? marketing at its best. Didn't the sex pistols prove something about the music industry?
Posted on the Geneva Motor Show section on Ford.ie, the company included a short info section that reads, “as for power, a specially tuned 2.3-liter EcoBoost petrol engine delivers 350 PS (345 hp).” --------- Oops:
That's more like it. I hope it does well here; I'm locked into my MINI, but those numbers are looking much better than what they teased with earlier.