:wink: Hello all, I am very much new to all things MINI. I am a Mechanic in the Navy for the last 20 years and just got my first MINI. I am a driver like most of you and choose MINI because of its driving dynamics. I have a Lightning Blue and Silver 2008 Cooper S Clubman and love it. I have installed exhausts on almost all of my cars including a nice cat back Borla on my 2001 F150 Lightning and and IPD Sport on my 1993 Volvo 940 Turbo Station Wagon. I do not like raspy coffee can mufflers as heard on many hondas and such and I am looking for something with a bit more grumble for my Clubman. Well, at least as much grumble as I can get for a 1.6 liter. Listening to online videos and clips its hard to tell what systems really sound best in person at idle, normal:wink: driving, and wide open. If anyone has some suggestions, please let me know. I appreciate the advice. I am also looking for clubs here in the PACNORWEST. It would be great to hear some different pipes in person. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.