I personally killed 20% of the ozone in the 80's with Aquanet hairspray with my David Lee Roth Hair do.
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PS I like oil companies they make oil and fuel for my car. I will NEVER drive a battery / hybrid Prius.
If people you to save the trees they should start wiping their butt with something else beside paper.
Yeah, those miserable scientists (well, just 99% of them), trying to line their pockets by pretending climate change exists and is caused by humans. It's lucky we have so many rich people with shares in oil companies to keep us straight on this subject, eh?
The next thing you know, the scientists will be trying to line their pockets by pretending that cigarettes cause cancer. Luckily I know Philip Morris personally and he told me that's all bunkum. And he's really rich, so it must be true.
The ice that is trapping them was broken off of the ice shelf nearby. The one that is shrinking.
While I believe something MAY be going on, the science for weather change is so limited to the recent past that I find it hard to believe anyone's hypothesis simply because they have such a limited amount of data. Yes we can all agree that the glaciers and ice fields are shrinking, but to claim that the end is near is a bit to Chicken Little for me.
There will be stability in the universe, because your great-great-great-great-great-grandson still will be posting here about how the R53 was the only real MINI. :biggrin5:
The Earth is always changing it the cycle of life at the grandest scale.
Sure we are getting warmer and then we get colder, if you don't believe me go find the nearest dinosaur and ask them where all their friends went.
FYI~ as far as I know we are still the only planet with Bacon, Donuts, Chocolate, Beer and MINI's.
Look Dave - I am not trying to preach global warming. The fact is that we do not completely understand what, if any impact we have on the planet...and anyone who thinks they have the answer.. on either side of the debate is simply wrong.
I like my MINI and don't want a Prius or hybrid. My college thesis was on electric vehicles. ( I even built a few...one out of a Fiat 128... what a piece of crap) Cradle to Grave - EV's have a bigger environmental footprint than an efficient gas engine vehicle. As far as I am concerned the idea that they are "greener" is a hoax.
I don't disagree when you say that "The EARTH is always changing and MAN can't not control it ". But we don't have to look far to see that we do make an impact. Take the Heat Island effect as just one example...where communities downwind of a large city see greater rainfall than those upwind. Essentially we have changed the weather patterns near large cities. This is a well documented phenomenon....Are we going to change this..? Nope, not likely.
I'm environmentally conscious but not stupid.
Electric cars are a diaper load of crap. Look at all the heavy metals in the electronics and batteries...never mind that much of the rare earth materials come from China...and almost nowhere else. (That's a great idea... Staking the auto industry on the whims of a communist country... dumb) The batteries have a finite life...and will eventually need to be replaced to the tune of thousands of dollars. Take the Tesla... Ooh all the great reviews. Beautiful car..fast car... ... But 85 large ? 250 mile range? Takes hours to "refuel"? No recharging infrastructure? Really? I mean REALLY? How practical is that? Electric motors are great but the batteries - even the new über high end ones are the Achilles heel. Hybrids are almost as bad. How much energy must be spent to make some of these exotic components? And then how do we get rid of these materials (some toxic) when the car is spent..? It's bull ! And the auto companies are cashing in...
I proved to a guy I work with that his Accord hybrid that he was bragging up would end up costing him more $$ over its life that the slightly less fuel efficient standard gas model. His response...? "But the ads and the dealer said....."
Ethanol in our gas? Another dumb idea...and I believe worse for the environment too.
I think clean diesel is a much better approach. Whew... Sorry for the long rant!
My head is not in the sand but I am also preaching about global warming on a car forum for a car that does not get the even close to the MPG rating listed on the window.
If you really were so passionate about global warming you would trade your MINI in on a Prius.
The EARTH is always changing and MAN can't not control it NO MATTER how hard we try.
I'm trying real hard not to get sucked in to this. Because of my job I see this planet from a perspective most people rarely see. We are like flees on a dogs back, we may make him itch but we are not going to kill him. You can't even believe how big a thunder storm is till your next to one 7 miles above the earth and just one little roll of it makes you look like a speck. Last Time I flew to Brazil I spent 3 hours over jungle at 35000 ft thats all you could see. The only way to reach some on was to use the HF radios.
I'm not saying dump oil down the drain or let factories dump in the ocean. But I'm sick of being told that Hybrids and electric cars will save us. They won't.
oops I got sucked in.:frown2:
Your the first "green" person I've ever heard say this. Thank you.
When taking into consideration "climate change" the data needs to be looked at over more years then the current "studies" have. When that is added in what we are going through is just a normal cycle. The earth has been warmer and colder.
The temps in the UK were warm enough to grow wine grapes before the mini ice age and still haven't even got back to that point yet.
I've got two bikes with low miles on each. They too hang from the garage ceiling as you suggest most may. They're likely to stay that way, as I'm a proponent of my fossil fueled vehicles hauling my a$$ where ever I want to go...
It really does not matter as nothing is going to happen to the planet for another Million or so years. Everyone's kids and their kids and 5 more or so generation will have been born and lived a full life and died of old age long before the end of Earth.
This planet has been around a million or so years without our help I am sure it will keep on going long after I die.
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