Government the answer you say?

Discussion in 'Politics and other "Messy" Stuff' started by minimark, Oct 21, 2011.

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  1. jiminni

    jiminni Well-Known Member

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    Are you serious? :mad5:
     
  2. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

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    That has been reported....
     
  3. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

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    Those that purchase a new Fisker Karma will also get the $7,500.00 tax credit!!!

    Thanks again taxpayers!!!
     
  4. Nathan

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    Why is old info about Fisker building Karma in Finland news again? ABC &Sarah Palin

    As I said when this was first brought up there is no real story here. A classic case of American muckraking journalism.

    Source - Why is old info about Fisker building Karma in Finland news again? ABC and Sarah Palin
     
  5. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

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    First I heard that Ms Palin had said anything about it. That said how anyone could not deem this newsworthy when our government is in such a horrendous fiscal state is beyond me. This investment was highly speculative at best and shouldn't have been done....

    Of course this comes to light at a time when as late as last week, our former community organizer of a President said: "I still say Solyndra was a good bet."

    Really?
     
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    Al Gore is invested in Fisker and Vice Pesident Joe Biden is from were? Delaware. He pushed hard and pulled all kinds of strings to save the old Boxwood GM plant so he could be the home town hero. They have been "re-tooling" the Fisker plant since GM stopped building the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky there. There have been delays after delays in re-opening that place. I also live in Delaware and I am only 15 miles from the Fisker plant and I'll bet I'll still have to pay the $500 destination charge if I bought one.
     
  7. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

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    Well at least we don't give but $300million a year in foreign aid to China, money that we borrow from them and then give back in aid.....in part to develop their energy programs.

    Go big government, your doing a great job with my tax dollar!!! :)

    PS: If they have the money to loan us in the first place why don't we skip paying the interest on the $300million and just let them take care of it in the first place?
     
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    Michigan Mini New Member

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    #28 Michigan Mini, Oct 28, 2011
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    I find it interesting that $592 million will get one's knickers in a bunch but $3-4 trillion down the Iraq-Afghanistan-Pakistan rat hole doesn't even raise an eyebrow. I hesitate to mention Afghanistan since we had cause to invade them but 8 years of dithering has made that a lost cause too.

    Maybe Lindsay Graham's idea of rebuilding Lybia might be a better venture.

    Big doesn't equal bad and small doesn't equal good. Just give me effective government.

    Regards,
    Chris
     
  9. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

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    #29 minimark, Oct 28, 2011
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    Won't debate the numbers or whether we should have gone into those places in the first place. That said I will say that this path of "Nation Building" is ridiculous and wasteful in not only money but most importantly in our most valuable commodity; the soldiers lives that defend us. If a regime becomes too much of a threat to us or their neighbors that are our allies, we should then go in and take it out, then pack up and leave. If the people of that country then allow another despot to take over and become a threat again...say 8, 10, 12 years down the road then we can go back and drop the hammer again.......then leave.

    Most the lives lost and money spent in these conflicts are in the years of nation building, years that don't fully seem to be appreciated by the very people we are supposed to be helping as evidenced by recent events......

    A small effective government for the win!

    PS: An oppressive regime, one that tortures it's own people, should also be on the hit list.
     
  10. CHKMINI

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    List every new federal program over the past three years, their debt contribution, their actual result compared to their promise, and their contribution to growing entitlement and the rat hole that you refer to is minuscule at best.
     
  11. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

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    Simply, waste is waste no matter the size.
     
  12. Michigan Mini

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    I think it would be interesting to see how the infunded programs of the eight years prior performed if put to that same test. Just so we are all clear, please define entitlements.

    Cheers!
    Chris
     
  13. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

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    What was the purpose and function of the Department of Energy when it was formed and what is it's budget for 2011?
     
  14. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

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    .....after that, what was the purpose and function of the Department of Education when it was formed and what is it's budget for 2011?
     
  15. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

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    What was the purposes and function of the Federal Government when it was formed and what is it's budget for 2011?
     
  16. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

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    What was the purpose and function of Welfare when it was formed and what us it's budget for 2011?
     
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    minimark Well-Known Member

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    What was the purpose and function of Social Security and what is it's budget for 2011?
     
  18. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

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    What was the purpose and function of Medicare when it was formed and what is it's budget for 2011?
     
  19. minimark

    minimark Well-Known Member

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    Just a few things there but then let's examine whether or not they have succeeded in their intended pupose and if they have ever and if they are still functioning as intended....
     
  20. CHKMINI

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    After reading the "words" at the bottom of each of your posts, it's probably best that further discussion between us cease....I play here to enjoy my MINI and the MINI community.:p
     

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