Suspension 1st Gen R53 Most liked posts in thread: Greene Performance Coilovers / Ride Height Help

  1. myles2go

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    Let me know when and I'll try to make it over to lend a hand!
     
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    Awesome! This is why I love owning a Mini too! Working it out with Fish on a PM - looks like Saturday, June 30th is going to work for us!
     
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    Yeah, mine will definetly drag the ground if I lowered them all the way. Good luck. Colin will make it right, I am sure.
     
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    Where did this end up?
     
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    Hi Sully - here's the latest:

    Colin sent me a new set of rear coilovers around the beginning of August. I took the old ones off and removed the lower perch(es) to compare the length of old vs. new. In this pic, the old is on the left, and the new is on the right. They are the same size, but I installed them anyway just to be sure I wasn't missing anything. Much to my dismay, the car is still sitting at stock height with the shock body bottoming out in the lower perch. I still can't adjust them any lower. I did not touch the preload, per Colin's advice.

    Colin says he installed these on his R53 before he shipped them and didn't have an issue with the adjustments. He also suspects something is wrong with my car. He is planning on sending me a third set with a shorter shock body.

    Stay tuned.
     

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    Hang in there, it will all be worth it once you and Collin get this sorted out.
     
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    Probably going to be quite here with MOTD also.. I would answe but don’t have experience with these..
     
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    Hey Dude, Colin is here at MOTD with me. What is your name and did you buy the coils from him directly? Colin wants to know your real name and not screen name ?

    He has a few ideas about what your problem could be, but he needs more info from you.

    Also he did what me to tell you all R53’s have some ‘Rake’ to them from the factory but you can dial it out and make the car look flat.
     
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    Hey Dave! That's great to hear. I just sent you a PM with my contact info and the background of what's going on. I didn't think anyone would be looking at this forum during the MOTD! Glad you did!
     
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    Dave O to the rescue !!!!!! :) :)
     
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    My umbers are taken from rim edge to fender edge wheel center like you are showing in your photos

    Front Right 4.2"
    Rear Right 4.1""

    Front Left 3.9"
    Rear Left 3.8"

    so still not a perfect match, but close. I may do one more tiny tweak to get it closer, but only a little down on one side and up on the other to get closer Too much and another alignment may be needed.

    I'll make sure to record the actual coilover thread distances when I get the wheels off again, but as you can see, you can get quite a bit lower with these coilovers. I am not at all near the end of the lowering range, front or back.
     
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    First of all, Fish, let me thank you for your detailed reply. Certainly a lot of helpful information for me here and you can definitely tell you are very experienced when it comes to these coilovers. Sounds like you're also experiencing the same types of road conditions too (I am on the Wisconsin/Illinois border).

    To address some of your questions/comments:
    • Bushings are brand new
    • Car has never been in an accident
    • From rim edge to fender, my front wheels measure more than an inch more than yours
    You also mention that you are "not at all near the end of the lowering range" for either front or back. This is where I am puzzled, as my mechanic says the rears can't be adjusted any lower (my plan was to personally verify this claim over the weekend, but did not get a chance to do so). Also, another member commented that my bottom spring perch should just not be up that close to the top of the threaded strut body. How do yours compare? Would there be any way you could take photos of your coilovers so I can compare them to mine? I'd be interested in seeing where your spring perch is and how much thread you have showing, especially in the rear.

    Thanks again!
     
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    Dave - thanks for passing my message on to Colin. Certainly did not want to bother him with this during MOTD week. Hope you guys had a good time. I will be on the lookout for a call/text from him soon. I'm sure he has some ideas on how to correct what we're doing wrong over here.

    And good point about the "stance" comment. This thread does seem to be focusing on the "stance" aspect of these coilovers, but the reason I did buy them is performance. I do need to get them dialed in right, though. To clarify, my main 2 concerns are:

    • In the rear, is my bottom spring perch way too close to the top of the threaded strut body (the springs are all the way up around the rubber boots with no thread showing behind the springs). Is this normal?
    • Why can't the rears be lowered any more than they are? What would cause this? (Again, not verified by me personally but will probably check today or tomorrow).
    Again - all comments and advice are appreciated by everyone. Thanks again for the help.
     
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    Let me share what I got - next time the wheels come off, I will try to get more useful images of the installation. Looks like I didn't document the coilovers. I have a lot of images of the broken lowering spring suspension, though :D

    first off - that's what I got from Colin in June of 2015
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    Front right - not sure what stage of the install that was, possibly the first time I got it installed
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    Really don't have any good photos of the current install, so I will go have a look next time it gets jacked up for the Milltek exhaust. Been mostly messing with LED lights and steam cleaning lately.
     
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    Yes, yes, yes. Your car looks perfect. That's how I want mine to look! Any chance of you posting a photo of the rears so I can compare them to my photos above? I'm interested in seeing how much threading you have showing and where the perch sits.

    I know what you mean by the improved feel! Installed mine and went straight to the track. Didn't even test drive it beforehand. Spectacular, despite the ride height issue.

    BTW, I really like the Anthracite trim!
     
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    Looks great!
     
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    I think your mechanic doesn't know how to adjust the coilovers because they do go lower. The setup in the picture is not bottomed out.
     
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    These are what mine looked like in the box.
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    It took a little time trying to get the ride height right, It still needs to be dialed in a little more. I wanted to fill in the arches a little better but found it was unrealistic by just adjusting the coilovers. I need a little more sidewall to accomplish that. That being said I am not really looking for the "stance" look either, I wanted adjustability for handling. As it sits now, it is low as I can take it without bottoming out on everything. The GP skirts want to rub on anything I go over. I do have a slight rake which I think is normal for the car. I can say the gap between my locking rings is narrower than what you are showing on yours. I had to add spacers on the front because both front wheels were rubbing on the coilovers.
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    I do like the ride and the handling is spot on. I am sure if I turned it over to Colin he would dial it in better.
     
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    Wow, those rear wheels are tucked in there aren't they. Are those 17"s?