1st Gen R50 Cooper Heated front windscreen

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  1. RallyMini370

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    Seeing as they took out my 10 year old to repair the Mini I thought it would be wise to replace the old stone chipped screen with a new one. The body shop guys replaced it with a heated screen. I have 4 spade connectors, one in each corner. How would I wire them up? I don't use the heated rear screen so I was thinking to tap into those wires/dash switch.
     
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    Wow not sure. Maybe run it through an ox switch?
     
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    have never heard of one installed outside of Canada!!
    There it was an option....helped to keep the glass warm in extreme cold, made it more flexible, but less likely to crack....but was $$$ to replace...so was not a US option...
    bet there are some additional parts to prevent overheating....
    aircraft use a similar system...just putting in raw voltage will, i'm pretty sure overheat it under most cases, burning it out....
     
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    Windshield heating button? - Page 2 - North American Motoring

    from a gen2 thread...but i think the cycle is similar...


    Moss Europe has a kit that MIGHT work...single or dual zone...made for a classic...but maybe...
    http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/wiring-kit-heated-windscreen-dual-zone.html
    http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/wiring-kit-heated-screen.html
     
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    Hummmm do you get a lot of snow in Costa Rica? :rolleyes:
     
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    It's for making grilled cheese samichs at the service area. :wink:
     
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    No snow but a lot of humidity/rain and in the race suit I swaet buckets so the windscreen steams up. I run the whole rally with the de-mist on. The heated screen should help. Thanks for the wiring info it seems the right 2 connectors are for the right side and the left for the left side. I would think tapping into the the rear screen wiring should work.

    Yes BBQ screen for the service area. haha
     
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    ZippyNH is correct aircraft do use heated windshields. The over temp sensor is built into the windscreen. it may be the same for you mini or it may be a low voltage so it won't over heat. You may want to do some checking before you put power to it.
     
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    I presume this is a Mini optional extra? and not something only CR has.
     
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    Know it was not an option in the US..some folks wanted to retrofit it, but the dealers are not allowed to order parts..thinking it might be a certification issue...maybe the windshields, etc were not safety tested or something to US rules...
    That having been said, there is a DAMM good reason why MOST mid-priced cars and above up in Canada has it...bey most of the NON-us cars in cold climates get it...guess we must loose some 'Features' to get the lower $$$ in the US.
    I find it interesting that the body shop got you a heated piece of glass.....I'd bet $$ they are MUCH more $$$ to make with the impeded wiring between the layers....bet about 2x the costs or more...
     
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    Interesting information. The screen cost 125,000 colones about $250 which I thought was a good price for a standard screen. The Suzuki screen cost $160 back in 2010 so the Mini screen was a bargain. I'm going to hook it up to the rear screen wiring as they seem similar. Anyway I don't use the rear screen heater of wash/wipe.
     
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    I have see a few of the big Benz 600's with the front and rear heated glass in the US but not that many.

    I had to remove window tint from one back in the day because no one would touch it because they were scared of the very thin wires on the glass. I said they are "in" the glass not "on" it and cut a corner out to show them. Duh....

    FYI was able to peel the rest off by "sweating" the glue back to liquid with some water, black trash bag and a heat gun. :ihih: This process leaves no glue on the glass to remove when you are done peeling it off. See I did learn something in Science class back in the day. :Thumbsup:
     
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    I'm resurrecting an old thread. I have one of these (a heated windshield) in the US. Well... it was a Canadian car that was later imported to the US. I wonder if I'm going to be able to find replacement glass when / if the time comes...

    The current windshield is quite old... very stone pitted and a chip that I've sealed up. The car lives in the garage during the winter, so I haven't had the chance to give it a try yet.
     
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    Can you order one from a Canadian glass supplier?
     
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    That may be the only solution. I haven't dug deep into it as (knock on wood) my windshield is in OK shape. It's pitted and has a chip (that I've sealed), but it is crack free and holding on. I'm going to try polishing out the glass again soon and applying a new sealant... hopefully it will cut down on some of the visual effect of the pits.
     
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    What are you using to seal the glass?
     
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    You should be able to get them, given the number of broken MINI windshields. My experience with MINI is that they can usually get parts in within a week, even if that part has to come from Germany. If there is no aftermarket one locally available, it won't be cheap though. In fact, for some of the really hard-to-find parts, the aftermarket part may be more expensive than the MINI one. If you get on the good side of your local MINI dealership, they may offer you a discount program. MINI dealerships have been giving discounts if your car is past the warranty period and you are the original owner or if you part of the local MINI car club or whatever excuse they can think of that will bring in steady business.



    Good luck.
     
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    This is why I have a standing “Dave’s cost” discount at my local MINI / BMW Dealership with the parts manager and GM.
     
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    That would be nice. Odds are my incident a few years back (yelling "Did I fucking stutter?" in the showroom when they used parts on a job that I explicitly told them not to use) didn't win me any customer of the year awards at my local dealership. I got a discount on the work, but the idiots never seemed to get the point that they were wrong.
     
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    Given that, why not simply replace it with a standard non-heated windshield?
     

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