Just out of curiosity, are the seats cloth or leather? My leather ones are perfect when the temp dips. Cloth may be too thin or not dense enough making the burn happen... Maybe?
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DneprDave Well-Known MemberSupporting Member
Wear two sets of underwear or thicker pants!:lol:
You could get an IR thermometer from Harbor Freight or Radio Shack and measure the seat temperature. Then you'd have some numbers to compare with other cars. Bring your numbers to the dealer and show him why the seat temperature is uncomfortable. This way you can also prove that all three temperature setting are the same.
"Hot" is kind of subjective and the dealer likely just shined you on.
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I use mine on simmer, Barbara uses broil on her seat.
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Is it possible, we're dealing with the "Change Of Life" thing going on here???
My wife could defrost frozen car windshields in absolutely no time at all. -
see TSB# SI M 52 01 08
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Minidave Well-Known MemberLifetime Supporter
How do I do that?
See the TSB, that is?
The dealer claims they checked them with an infrared thermometer and they were actually a little cooler than those in other cars.
I have the leatherette seats, I think the material is fairly thick, and I wear blue jeans.....
I do think they're hotter on the "3" setting than the "1", cause my wife (who wears a coat when it's 85* outside) uses the "3" setting....but as I said, I'm good for about 3 min tops on the "1" setting before I have to turn them off.
Lastly, I think I'm well past the change of life phase....
Edit: found this on that NAMeless site...
I just spoke with my MA and there is indeed a TSB for Heated Seats being too hot. The TSB has some language about the seat temperature being in range but too hot for the owner's liking. The solution is to install an OEM adapter harness that has a resistor that lowers the temp of all three settings. Mine are on order with my local dealership now.!
SI M 52 01 08
Take note that it only applies to vehicles produced up to 1/2008 (so, technically it did not even apply to my car with a 2/08 prod date).
However, just because a vehicle is out of range does not mean that it does not apply. The dealer was more than happy to perform the TSB. -
I gotta tell ya, no such thing as to hot for me its theraputic when the temp outside is below zero. But I use them in the summer too. I will say of all my cars they are the hottest I've had, but there's nothing wrong with that.
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Minidave Well-Known MemberLifetime Supporter
Just spoke to my SA at the dealer, SI M 52 01 08 only applies to cars previous to production date of 01/08, mine was built a year after that. He says they incorporated the change into cars made after that, so mine already has it, and warranty won't pay to modify it further.
He says I can add another resistor if I want, they only cost $28, but he wants $230 in labor to install it for me. I can turn the switch on and off for that!
I'm only 20K miles from being out of warranty, I may just have to let it go till then. They've gotten pretty hinky about people working on their own cars and then trying to get warranty repairs done, even on things that aren't associated. I can wait it out, as I plan to keep this car a long, long time. -
Or you could try seat covers? A little added protection for you and your MINI. I love my heat seaters - they keep me warm while the car warms up, and are excellent for relaxing tight back muscles. I do like the thermometer idea - maybe you could use a kitchen one tho!
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I have heard that most seats only have 2 temps even though the switch has 3 settings setting 1 (off) and setting 2 and up (LAVA).
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DneprDave Well-Known MemberSupporting Member
The seats are probably not really too hot. It's like when you get into a hot bath, you ease in going, "Oh oh oh, hot hot hot!" but after you've been there a minute, it's not bad at all!
I think it's more about the temperature difference between a cold butt and a warm seat, the larger the temperature difference the hotter it'll feel.
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ScottinBend Space CowboySupporting Member
Never had the need for them since I got the Wet Okole seat covers. Nice all year round.
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Crashton Club Coordinator
I used mine this morning for about 15 minutes on the simmer setting. What I would really like would be a heated steering wheel. I hate driving with gloves on.
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Forgot about the gear shift. I have an ice cold Whalen knob that I've put a felt snuggy over so my had doesn't freeze to it.
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Seats.... 1-light for 20 minutes and all my parts are toasty.
Steering wheel- I would really appreciate that option, really.
STEPTronic- touch it once and go......