Need help on this one. Please.....
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Welcome to MA! Helix is one of our sponsors, Eric is a great guy and really supports the community. You have your car in the hands of one of the best Mini shops out there. I am a first Gen guy so I am not much help, but a Gen2 guy should be along soon.
Sounds like a very nice MINI, post some pictures -
I know i am in great hands at Helix and Eric has been top-notch. I am just reaching out to see if anyone has any ideas, as it appears that even Eric and his team are a bit stymied by this problem. I just wanted to tap into any source that might have a thought that we haven't tried yet.
Thanks, Charlie
Ps: It's an awesome build, with about $25,000 in aftermarket parts and equipment. The audio system in particular is a great custom build. I'll post more info when i get an opportunity. -
Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
Oh was that your black JCW coupe I saw parked at Helix today.
Best of luck with your ride, but I would trade it because well it's 2nd gen. Try and R53 for real fun. -
Dave,
Thank goodness you are not me.
The 2012 JCW Roadster has now been discontinued, making the car, particularly a well modified one, a rare find. I have a considerable amount of my time, energy, not to mention money, invested in this project. I appreciate your advise, but I'll meet you on the Blue Route or Kelly Drive any day to see who can have more fun!
As for the Motoring Alliance, it is my hope that of all the folks that participate in the site, someone technically oriented may be able to offer a possible solution to my recent power woes. Helix is great, so I am sure we will have time for a run or two at some point in the future. Tune up!!!
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. -
Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
I know about having lots of money in a car so I guess I will see you at the shop sometime. :ihih: -
Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
What motor work have you had done and who tuned your car? Please don't say you have a Manic tune.
Just trying to help. -
I look forward to comparing notes...
Hopefully, Eric still has a bit of wrench-work left in him for my car. While I live in NY, just north of the city, I am in Philly quite often, having a number of good friends out on the main line. I'll let you know the next time I venture south and I am sure I would enjoy seeing your ride. -
The engine has been upgraded to include a new JMTCs Extreme GTD47mm turbo, all new tubes and down pipes (intercooler resonator delete, air charge and discharge pipes, etc...), oil catch-can, AEM cold air intake, forge blow-off valve, Milltek turbo down pipe (with Cat), a helix Gen2 new stepped Intercooler, AEM Water/ Meth cooling system, high performance ignition coil pack and cold Brisk sparks, and a new tune from Eric's guy in California (?). Heat shields for Turbo and oil line and many other small upgrades under the bonnet.
Thoughts? -
Not sure of the guy's name who did the tune. I need to ask Eric. He mentioned he was a regular=r source for Helix and lived in California. Who is RMW?
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I had the same problem with the same turbo on jcw compression for around a year trying to figure it out. In my case the JMTC turbo waste gate preload was not set correctly and I had a hot side boost leak around the throttle body that took forever to find. The car also kept roaching coils and spark plugs for some reason.
JMTC could not get my car tuned right after months of anally blown smoke. Rmw said he's developing a stand alone which is not available yet as far as I know. I eventually found Jzw tuning who got my car running right without codes/boost dump/ limp mode...for now.... He said JMTC had the tune all screwy with a 12k rpm redline setut:.
My car has ported everything so it took him a while to get it figured out but he did, so props to Jzw for accomplishing what no one else could. Wouldn't recommend manic also known as maniac tunes because of their propensity to esplode. Not saying mine won't blow up but it hasn't yet... If I make it past 10k miles I'll consider it reliable...
It makes around 25psi and I haven't got it dynoed yet. The car has a few tunes on a Powergate 3 programmer including a 40% ethanol mix tune. I will still detonate periodically under high load and boost on 91 pump gas but have not encountered any detonation running ethanol which is supposedly around 100 octane. Haven't got a temp gauge but I know it runs hotter than hell which Jzw said is because of the design of the engine bay and size of turbo.
In my case it was bad tunes (multiple), boost leaks, incorrect waste gate preload, and bad coils/plugs even though less than 5k miles old.... He said the car was also "clenching" spark and he messed with the plug gaps.
How much oil do u use? You should make sure it's not sucking oil screwing up your afr. Good luck... -
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Both you guys are WAAAAAY beyond me. I just want to add moral support to Charlespmead. Hope the MINI Gods smile on you.
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Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
Jan / RMW tunes are solid. I bet the issue is with the turbo and waste gate as Guapfish_fiver said above.
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Just heard back from Eric Savage at Helix Motorsports in Philadelphia.
He said, "We have been really digging into your car, trying to find the reason for the limp mode/boost drop. We have eliminated with good certainty the tune, boost leaks, catalytic converter as the source. We have eliminated with some certainty boost control on the cold side of the turbo, and with less certainty the hot side. Using the fiber optic scope, the hot side looks whole, but perhaps with excessive carbon build-up. Maybe because it's running rich due to the boost issue. The turbo spindle and impellers look healthy on the cold side and spin and feel correct."
I am still looking for some alternative thoughts, as my car has been in the shop for three full weeks without much luck solving this issue. I am heading to Philly tomorrow to pick it up. Looking for a miracle or a solid idea. Does anyone have a thought??? Thanks, Charlie -
Do what Dave said or go back to stock. Or buy a car that comes with some actual power if that's what you're after.
Welcome, Chuck
Or maybe... MAP sensor? Is the timing chain stretched enough that you'll get any cam/crank sensor issues? Limp mode for me in the passed has been fuel related. -
What u should do is disconnect the downpipe, hook up a vacuum pump to the DV, pump it up to 15 pounds or so, and make sure the gate is tight and sealing. The pivot arm could be shot and not sealing the lid. -
Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
If Eric has a tuner in California it's JAN the owner of RMW. The tune is solid.
JAN comes to Helix once a year for a week to tune cars on the dyno. JAN is also at the Dragon every year.
The problem is the R56 (2nd Gen) cars do not like turbo upgrades and stuff. BMW made them that way for a reason. :ihih: -
You are corrrect! But we haven't even gotten to the tune yet. Looks like we have exhausted most of the rational reasons for the lack of boost and are now focusing on the JMTC turbo as the potential issue. Aaric from JMTC is talking to Helix Motorsports trying to figure out the next steps, short of returning the car to stock.
So I am leaving the Roaster in Philly for a fourth week of diagnostic trial and error. Can't wait to see the bill for this trip. Yikes!
I remain hopeful for a fix.
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