BTW, these are the new shoes:
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ScottinBend Space CowboySupporting Member
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Crashton Club Coordinator
Oh heck let them go out in a blaze of track day glory...
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goaljnky New Member
Put on the new shoes last night. Driving to work just now made me realize how truly crappy 3/32nds of rubber is. Don't think putting them on the track is such a hot idea.
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goaljnky New Member
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BThayer23 Well-Known Member
Well, 2/32 would be better, but that's splitting hairs. When the tread blocks are new and tall, they flex as you corner. The flexing creates friction within the rubber and extra heat builds up unevenly in the tread blocks, which leads them to chunk off. When the tread blocks are short, they don't flex as much, because the tire profile is more uniform. The tire distributes heat better and you have more grip.
That's why sticky street tires, like the Star Specs, have large tread blocks. It gives the tire more grip and resistance to heat. On the street, your primary concern is channeling water out from under the tire when it rains, hence most tires have lots of grooves. But on the track, heat within the tire is the more immediate concern. -
goaljnky New Member
All true. But, I still say two and a half year old Star Specs with 20,000+ miles on them are not a good idea for the track. Of course if anyone feels different, they are now up for sale. :lol:
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Redbeard JCW: because fast is fun!Supporting Member
They are heat cycled Jerry. I wouldn't risk thrashing one hard enough to cord & lose pressure while at speed on track.
However, if you have DD tires to swap to thrashing them at an AutoX might not be too bad.
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goaljnky New Member
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goaljnky New Member
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Redbeard JCW: because fast is fun!Supporting Member
You should do a Speedventures AutoX. Tons of runs (20-30+) and no cone shagging.
At a 215/45/17 tire you SHOULD be running them around 38 psi. The only time I drop them below that is on a track day you want them to be about 38 psi HOT so drop them to 30-32 cold.
My StarSpecs lasted 5 tracks days, some AutoX, and 15k of DD. Regular rotation and keeping an eye on pressures does it every time. -
goaljnky New Member
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Redbeard JCW: because fast is fun!Supporting Member
Mine is fine and I'm on stock suspension. R56 too.
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BThayer23 Well-Known Member
Another believer in high pressures on the street here, too. 38 psi all around.
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