Problem Corrected
Since I posted a photo of the damage to the paint under the hood caused by strong cleaners, I thought it appropriate to share, in photo format, the "after" image of the underhood paint.
(Yes, I know there are a couple screws missing.)
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First engine bay cleaning.
I followed Mark's instructions, 1st post in this thread, paragraphs 1 & 2.
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Where the new Chili Red meets the cowl at the back edge of the engine bay, you cannot see any difference in color. Wish I could say the same for the white. At the top of the back of the car, where the white top paint continues under the hatch, the white had washed off leaving splotches of red. Where the new white paint meets the old, there is a color difference, with the new paint having a bit of a gray cast.
It took two 12.5 oz cans of Chili Red and 2 cans of Clear Coat to do the area under the hood.-
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A superb job. Well done.
It is nice to see a female take notice of the importance of keeping an engine clean. Not only do I have to keep mine clean, I have to keep my wife's 2010 HzBl MCS clean as well. As a matter of fact, I just came back from washing it, cleaning the wheels, ArmourAlling the tires and cleaning the engine bay, which included polishing the strut bar. All this in 90 degree heat.-
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Strong Cleaners Under Hood
This thread has had some discussion on how strong cleaning solutions can damage the underhood paint, which does not have the protection of clearcoat. Thought a picture could be worth a 1000 words, so . . .
As one can see, cleaning solutions can disolve the paint and wash it away. Wish I could identify the culprit solution, but the damage occured during the previous owner's time. And, it was not just the underhood cleaning chemicals - the white top paint that extends under the hatch, also lacking clearcoat, has been washed away in the same manner.
The BRG MINI had some gunk looking like undercoating on the bottom side of the hood. Thought a mild solvent - mineral spirits - would remove it. Did so, but also removed the paint. Fortunately, it was just a small spot and repainting was not difficult task. Repainting the areas under the hood and hatch of the MC40 will be a time consuming, tedious task. Wished the previous owner had read this thread.
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Read more: http://www.motoringalliance.com/forums/detailing/909-how-i-clean-mini-engine-bay-2.html#ixzz3IhNyKO2B-
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I'll be doing this this afternoon---including the drinking-the-beer part. :cornut:
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I won't be doing any engine cleaning today, but I will be doing some interior detailing on Poco, and beer drinking
Mark -
Thanks for the write-up. If you don't mind, can I hit you up on a few noob questions.
Since getting my MINI I have become somewhat OCDD, but these skills are new to the MINI and I've never cleaned an engine compartment in my life. As far as covering the air intake (I'm assuming CAI) are you in an S or Justacooper? I ask because I'm in an S, and since there's a cover on my CAI either I don't need to do this or am not clear on what you mean.
So if I hear you right after you apply 303/Nero you let the car sit for 10 minutes, then go for a hard drive for 10 minutes, and then wipe everything off?
How often do you need to do this to keep up with it?
I got my 08 in Nov., and as indicated haven't done a cleaning yet. Any tips for the first one?
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There is no real issue with needing to cover anything on a stock 2nd gen MINI, I was referring to any aftermarket intakes with exposed air filters.
You probably don't need to heat up the engine, just the way I learned to do it before wiping off any excess.
If you keep the engine bay clean and wiped down, about once a week, or after motoring in rain, dusty conditions, it takes no time at all, and you can generally skip the simple green step, or just use it were needed.
I just use towels, no brushes.
As to dealing with the goo, simple green will take some off, alcohol works, as does WD40.
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Cool. I'm going to try this today. Maybe some before and and after pics. Thanks!
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Engine cleaning / maintenance requirements vary widely depending upon driving conditions, too.
I almost never drive on dirt or gravel roads. In the winter here, we occassionally get some brine treatment on the roads, and very rarely get some sand and salt treatments. But my car never sees heavy snows and mag chloride and all the nasty stuff... so at it's DIRTIEST, my car is about 5% as nasty as folks who have to deal with real winter weather.
As a result, All I need to do is wipe down my bay with a towel once a month or so as part of my normal wash... and it's pretty much car-show clean all the time. But staying on top of it with whatever level of wipe down, cleaning, or whatever is needed where you live is the key. Lots of folks who live here and don't drive as many miles as I do have DIRTY engine bays at our club meets... and it's just because they never do ANYTHING to their bay... they just let the crud accumulate over time. And if you let it, it will. -
Well, I got rained out today, but 03Indigo and I have an engine detail date for next week.
Paul, I'm hoping after this initial effort I get to the simple wipe down stage at least for most weeks. I pretty much do that anyway on every wash. The problem is I never cleaned it the first time so there's a lot of crap that should have been removed to start and I'm now seeing engine grime creeping in.
I do live in one of the nasty winter area's your talking about, so I'm probably prone to some extra effort. We'll see how it goes, but if last winter is any indication I don't see to many winter detail sessions. It's more of a minimum effort between snows at the self serve car wash to get the big stuff off and get by. We'll see how it goes, but I foresee a full engine cleaning once a year as part of my spring detail with regular wipe down and spot treatment as needed every wash through the summer and fall. -
this is exactly what i did the other day! simple green and a tooth brush : )
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