The head of Subaru has said definitely not. The company is spending all its development dollars on family cars now.
I've read both sides, that the STi was in the works with a turbo, and that it wouldn't happen. I'm kind of leaning on the happening side, but who knows for sure. I think it's much more definite that Toyota won't be adding forced induction to the FR-S.
I drove an Abarth today as fast as I could. Into a brick wall. There wasn't enough HP to do any damage to the car. Or the wall. Nice stick location though. That's about it for me.
Yes he is going to fix it, they are giving him $9k, plus his car back. It will have a "savage title", but he doesn't care, it will be his car forever anyway He is going to have to buy something before that though , his car will be down quite awhile.
I also like the BRZ-FRS twins. For me its 200 ponies would be enough. Maybe I'll have to get co-pilot Jeffy & do another test drive.
I've driven the new Abarth and I did like it. But I really miss my old Abarth. 750cc of raw power! It was a 1958 and in its time a Mini could not touch it. Gone but not forgotten!
Not to be disrespectful, but I've yet to see an Abarth finish ahead of us on the track in seven years... Though they are very fast!
No disrespect taken. The New MINI is better then the new Abarth. Just to clarify I was talking about the old days. :biggrin5: The first Abarth was based on the Fiat 500. In Abarth trim it topped out at 120mph, that's a two cylinder! In 1958 they took a Fiat 600 and converted it to 750cc. It had a steel built crank and cam. Starting in 59 they took the 600 and punched it out to 1000cc and in 1970 they put the Radiale (Hemi type) head on it. It was fast. Nothin could touch it. It was first raced in 1970 at the Mosport Can-Am weekend, when that head was allowed by the SCCA. It won big till the end of 1971 when it was outlawed from sedan class. Back then Abarth was its own company that got the blanks from Fait. It was started by Carlo Abarth. He and Ferdinand Porsche were friends. Abarth even did a Porsche. Also Enzo Ferrari drove a 128 Abarth. They did a lot of different versions, most Fiats that raced were Abarths. Now it is part of Fiat. When I heard Abarth was coming to the U.S. I knew I would buy one. That is where my roots are. If there was no New MINI I would be driving an Abarth but Mini is a better car today. Sorry for the history lesson. Yea I know I'm an old fart! :frown2:
Ya I knew you were talking about the good ole days. I didn't know the history as well as I just learned though. Thanks.. We've typically not had any Abarths that were real competitive in our vintage racing experience. That said, my buddy has commented before about how fast they were back in the day when he was racing his Sprite. I'd love to see more of them make a come back.
Nice name, B.A.D. Now, all we have to do is to make sure we DO NOT FART in the new cars we are driving...[aka, ahhh, ain't aging and body "emissions" fun?] :devil:
Fiat did what MINI did with John Cooper Works, bought them up. MINI has added JCW to everything & diluted what JCW once was. Fiat has not done that yet. I agree MCS02 an R53 is a better car than an Abarth. The Abarth is better that the F56 justacooper. I have yet to drive an F56 S. Trouble is even if the F56 drives better it still looks like a carp. Thanks for the history lesson. I knew these things at one time, but they were lost somewhere in my head. :crazy: