I'm out too rkw. I had never noticed it before, until wmwny pointed it out, but this place is becoming the R53 club. Perhaps Nathan should start M/A II for the other generations to gather.![]()
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Can DaveO's psychology really be explained in one paragraph? I fear theres a lot more rattling around in his melon. For the sake of all thats decent lets hope it stays in there!
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Good to hear what I consider to be an HONEST UNBIASED review of the new car...good to hear it has some good stuff going for it!!:smile5:
Performance is fact...it is measurable... Quantifiable... If it was not "better" in most every way, I would be shocked.....
Now the only real question.....does it speak loudly enough to folks to fall in love with it....or just like....-
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Good to hear I am not the only one mad that they built a baby BMW.... As opposed to a mini.-
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wmwny Well-Known Member
Just MY 2c.-
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Looking forward to a test drive later this month in KC. Having focused on MINI out of warranty/aftermarket repairs and costs for many years, it will be interesting to note how the non oil checking long term owner accustomed to Asian auto reliablity will respond to post warranty ownership repairs on the most gizmoed MINI yet. The financial pragmatist in me hopes future extended warranty programs cover all those nickel and dime repair costs that the myriad of those baubles and trinkets may incur. Can't imagine the out of pocket expenses without one. Methinks I will wait til the dust settles on the first or second production year new car blues before considering a purchase. Must admit my charming bride would really appreciate the reported comfort refinements of the third gen MINI. Meanwhile I will continue honing my grin while motoring along in our R53.
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Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
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ill say it...its crrraaaaaap... its seriously looks like a cartoonist rendering of a R56...and its not 1st gen owners only...it raises my hackles when MINI has essentially sold their souls on the altar of tech hipster spank banks... mini has made such a fervor over all the tech it has and has basically told those who own current or previous gen's either buy this one or ****** off...as shown in a response to an email in which i was asking when Android support for connected was coming...BMW Connected has it... this tardcar has it...the systems are the damn same and yet MINI stated that they have no interest in even something simple as porting an app over... also with the marketing they are doing on this car its basically...if you like a 3rd pedal you are a dinosaur and the auto is better... if you hate tech getting in the way of driving get over it old man... also its great for getting coffee or jousting but nothing to do with the cars heritage...when you have to trundle out the previous ones to show the world "see see its similar, right?"...and the fact people are clamoring for aftermarket aero kits...mini has lost it from the jump
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yea...not all of them...also there is a certain understated way they set up tech in the Rxx platform...its there but its not the center of the universe in the car... after trying the F56 its nothing but about the tech in the car...there are buttons or toggles EVERYWHERE...its not a simple joystick and two buttons for the connected...now its the full on iDrive with the 10+ buttons around the enormous knob...also all of the light/wipers/stereo/cruise and OBC controls where on the steering wheel or on the control stalks...now...they are everywhere again...with the light controls being under the the dash on the kick panel! there are toggles...buttons...more toggles and switches...oh...those who like their R56 esque dual tilting sunroof...its gone...back to only the front section tilting
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the interior is a mess...just like the exterior...there is no central design principle...they took a BMW then a mini...took the worst ideas of both and threw it together...while the seats are nicer...some of seat fabric choices are wtf...one felt like it had the texture of a 1970s couch
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