Do Write In Votes Matter?
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Just to lighten things up a little today....
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LOL. I don't know if bringing Hitler into the conversation now would be considered 'lightening things up'.
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So for those of you who voted for Hillary today.
Now go get out your family photo album. Look for a picture of some family member that served in the military.
Then take that picture into the bathroom and take a nice dump on it, because that is what you have done today.
As for me being in the "City of Brotherly Love" you are sadly mistaken. I do not live in Filth-a-delphia -
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Isn't it an amazing thing, that we've become such a divided bunch over the course of the last eight years. There's the change very few expected.
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My 93 year old grandfather, who served in the Navy on an aircraft carrier in the Pacific during WWII, would disagree. We had a lengthy discussion about the election last weekend and told me he had zero confidence in Trump as Commander in Chief.
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Well that's good to know. You're lucky to still have him around to enjoy those conversations.
I lost my Dad seven years ago. He served in almost eight years in the Army during WWII, mostly in the South Pacific. I knew his viewpoint about pretty much everything, including politics. I'm certain he'd not have approved of this election cycle. But, he would have voted the same as we did. And for all the right reasons. -
Brian,
As a republican I take offense to your broad strokes that we don't support the same things you do.
Do I care bout gay marriage? Nope, they want to be screwed by the same tax laws that I do then by all means join the party.
I do not care what any women decides to do with her uterus. It's hers. However, I have the right to believe it is wrong to kill an unborn child.
As for religion, the only one that is persecuted in this country today is christians. We are the only ones that are not tolerated. If Islam says that women are a lower class and they must serve their husbands and walk behind them and dress a certain way; that is all defended by the left and if you disagree then you are a islamaphob. (If you think I am exaggerating then come watch my next door neighbors and how the treat their wives and daughters.
But if you are a Christian and were raised with the Bible and taught that thou shalt not kill, or that birth control is wrong, or that the definition of marriage is a man and a women, there is zero respect from the left for those beliefs. And then the snarky comments and such start coming.
I'm pretty tired of all the continuous intolerance of others that don't agree with dem thinking.
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From a party platform, the Republican Party does not support the things I called out. I agree that there are items that individual Republicans may support. I believe that everybody should be entitled to their religious beliefs (or non-beliefs for that matter), but one group's beliefs should not be the basis of laws for everyone. You want pray in school, fine but it must be allowed for all religious beliefs. We have heard that marriage between a man and a woman is based on procreation, so any man and woman who chose not to/can't have children should be forced to end their marriage. Birth control/abortion is wrong, come up with a plan to assist unwanted children who are born as a result of those wrongs.
For the record I was raised Catholic, but have drifted away because I struggle with much of the doctrine. I will say that the current Pope has my attention, but I also have learned that I personally do not need a deity to allow me to show compassion to my fellow humans.
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He also knows how I voted, and why, and respects my choice.
He and I have mutual respect for each other, in spite of our differences -- a concept some people just can't comprehend.
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If "persecution" means you can't turn your personal beliefs into laws that everyone has to obey, then yes, you are "persecuted."
There are more christian churches in America than there are McDonald's restaurants. Yeah, that's persecution for you. Those churches take in billions of dollars -- tax free. More persecution.
Freedom of religion does not mean you are free to force your beliefs on everybody else.
If you believe birth control is wrong. Don't use it. If you believe abortion is wrong, don't have one. If you believe same sex marriage is wrong, don't marry a member of the same sex. You can do that! You are 100-percent free to do that!
I completely respect your beliefs, but don't expect everyone -- don't expect me -- to share to your beliefs. And, don't call it persecution if you can't make your religious beliefs into laws.
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Reading this, I realize how all over the place I am, my views probably offend everyone.
B.A.D., what you said about being raised catholic, and moving away from it because many of their doctrines, I could have written that about myself.
05r50, I agree with virtually everything you wrote--I've voted republican for a bazillion years; I'm fiscally conservative, but socially more liberal--personally I detest abortion, but I don't believe it's my or anyone's place to legislate it (The republican conundrum: preaching small government and fewer regulations across the board--except on social issues that go against their personal religious views).
I don't believe christians are persecuted, but I do believe they are marginalized, and do not have the same freedom of speech or expression as other groups--it's acceptable to ridicule Christians, and Christian beliefs, but everyone else is supposed to be tolerated and treated with respect. New term: "Christian Guilt."
I am not trying to wave a banner with this--I really don't believe in any religion anymore (But still believe in a god, go figure), and I respect anyone's choice in what they believe. And I believe the left's intolerance of the right is just as bad as the right's intolerance of the left, but it's more acceptable in today's society to be in the former group. Personally, I could go without either. -
And it looks like Trump is going to win--unbelievable how two weeks can make such a huge difference.
I don't know what the future holds, but love or hate Trump, there is one bright side: these elections should spell the end of pants suits. RIP. -
I am also, believe it or not, very fiscally conservative -- in the old-school sense of the term. If you decide to buy something, you need to pay for it. The only debt I owe is a $76,000 mortgage on a house worth $213,000 on the tax rolls, or about $240K on the open market. I paid cash for my MINI -- and most of my cars over the years.
Both parties are guilty of fiscal irresponsibilities, and Trump is the undisputed king of debt.
I am also socially, well, libertarian. As long as how you live your life doesn't hurt me, I'm cool with it.
As for people's religious beliefs, as long as I don't have to live by them (and they don't involve sacrificing my dog), knock yourself out. I don't believe in any gods, but I also don't care about "under god" in the pledge -- too trivial for my brain. If I am at a gathering with a meal, and there is a prayer before eating, I just stand quietly and let the the people pray -- and I KNOW I am not the only one doing that.
I used to work in one of the "worst" parts of Dallas, by common "knowledge." I never got messed with one time in about five years. I also ate some dayum good food you can't get at Applebee's in the burbs.
I'm also a gun owner. I love duck gumbo, and rather enjoy "harvesting" the ducks. I don't "carry," and don't want to. Besides being unnecessary (IMO), a concealed handgun is downright uncomfortable. An iPhone in my pocket is about as far as I want to go in the way of "packing."
I have actually had guns pointed at me twice. Both times by white rednecks who had issues with my driving. To be honest, I actually did cut the first redneck off... unintentionally. My bad, so I guess I deserved to have that redneck point a gun at me. The second guy was in a $50K loaded Pickup, and felt "entitled" to the lane I was in, and I failed to yield to his entitlement, because I needed to exit the highway in less than a quarter-mile. Maybe it was Donald's cousin Bubba. I had the audacity to put my need to exit ahead of his desire for my lane.
I tend to believe that most Americans are kinda' like me. But, we don't draw the news cameras. "White man safely eats lunch in Black neighborhood" doesn't make much of a headline.
CD
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