Most liked posts in thread: I'll just toss this out there...

And here is how your BS polls are misleading people: Look at the poll data and where it is coming from. (Clinton)

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I was comfortable with Kasich or Bush. Jeb went out early; he's a terrible speaker, and in the sound bite world we live in, didn't stand a chance. Either would have been a good president; Kasich was my favorite of the two, a compassionate republican would have won going away.

I'm voting Johnson. Trump is many things, but he's not a Republican, which is why so many in his own party are distancing themselves from him. This is the last gasp for the angry middle aged white guys who used to be the majority; after this, the Republican party is going to have to find a platform that appeals to a broader base, or it's going to become irrelevant and die. I THINK it will; I think there are enough smart, young people in the party who will start something constructive, instead of preying on peoples fears, hates and prejudices (Trump has only one area that he's pushed anything constructive: the economy. Everything else is bluster and blather, with no real constructive plan to fix the issue, just inflate it as a divisive sound bite). The Republican party is going to have to evolve. I'm still left scratching my head how this election was thrown away against a candidate that's not even popular in her own party.

I can't vote Hillary, the carp with the foundation, the lies, the sense of entitlement, and the general way she treats people in private speaks volumes on what type of person she is. She is paranoid; she resembles Nixon in her personality, the way she speaks, etc. more than any politician I've seen since Nixon; no thanks.

I'm not enthusiastic about Johnson, but I could live with it, and I realize he won't win, but a large third party vote sends a message to both parties. It's debatable whether they'll listen, but neither of the top candidates are acceptable, it's a disgrace that a country this great, this large, has candidates this poor.

At the end of the day, I strongly believe the best realistic scenario is Hillary winning with the Republicans maintaining the control of the Senate. In the end, that's what I firmly believe is best for the country as a whole.

 

We'll see...Monmouth, and other polls that aren't media based show your boy in bad shape. Like I said, when the polls, including the one's you hate now, were showing Trump blowing away the rest of the field in the Republican party, it was used to tout how popular he was across the base of the party. How's that working out now?

If you look hard enough, you can always find something to support your views. It's not scientific, but is is comforting. If you look at the whole, you get a better picture of the truth, not necessarily just what you want to hear. Just sayin....

 

Its the last line that really got me, in your post (163) above this one. Seriously?! ^^^ :eek6::eek6::frown2: ^^^

 

Yes, I know, objectivity in a subjective world can be hard to work with...

Look at everything, not just the media, not just the conspiracy theorists, but everything. And it's pretty clear. Just wait until the election.

When Trump was in the lead, it was an in your face type of thing with Trump and his supporters, using the same evidence that they're now discounting because it's not going his way. Suddenly it's a liberal media conspiracy. Heck, Trump hasn't even lost yet, but he's already making excuses for losing. Not that long ago, he declared himself the winner. Can't have your cake and eat it too. There are two sides, but, and this is a huge reason I'm down on the whole Trump thing, is Trump and most of his supporters see one side to everything, not even acknowledging other viewpoints. As a president, he would be an unmitigated disaster. Tried to keep that out of this, but it's the truth, and the backbone of the Republican party--people in high office--believe this, and are walking a tightrope trying not to destroy the party. I agree with them 100%.

What we're left with now is getting through the election, and rebuilding the party into something relevant, with broad based appeal, not based on exclusion and lack of flexibility that Trump has pushed front and center.

Trump, at the end of the day, isn't in it for America, he's in it for Trump.

 

Virtually every president in the past couple of decades where in it for themselves. You think Hillary isn't? Obama has hardly ever if ever had a real job, he ran for president because it was another step in his political career and now can retire and never work again. ( as with any past president of course ) Sure part of Trump's reason is for his resume but he doesn't need the head ache of it all which is why I think at least half his reason for running is he thinks he can make a difference, which is something we haven't seen in my generation.. Someone running and actually having a good chance of winning that just wants the job...and not because it's their next step...

 

Polls?!
I get 5-7 calls a day....hang up on them all...even considering getting rid if the landline more due to this....
And this leads to an issue...
Since most folks under the age of 40 don't have a landline, and "polls" are on mostly landline....is a poll useful? No.
Less so since even folks with landlines often hangup anyway....
Only folks that have phones that WANT to be polled are polled....
So old people with lots of free time....
What about the other 70% of the population?!

 

A vote against Trump and for Her gets you this.




Which reminds me of this:

 

Just checking to see if anybody changed their mind after last nights debates?

 

Nope because

Only Hillary Clinton was caught lying to congress.
Only Hillary Clinton in 1974 was fired from a job (Watergate Committee) for being unethical.
Only Hillary Clinton deleted 33,000 emails after she was ordered to hand them over to the Fed.
Only Hillary Clinton had that same computer server wiped (BleachBit) clean by professionals.
Only Hillary Clinton got the rapist of a teenage girl off on rape charges then laughed about it.
Only Hillary Clinton lied to the American people about Benghazi.
Only Hillary Clinton lied to the American people about her emails.
Only Hillary Clinton lied about being under sniper fire.
Only Hillary Clinton lied about lying to the American people.
Only Hillary Clinton was involved in "Cash Cow"
Only Hillary Clinton has a long list of scandals.
Only Hillary Clinton nationally belittled her husband's sexual harassment and rape accusers.
Only Hillary Clinton is a career politician.
Only Hillary Clinton will not release her speeches to Goldman Sachs and other banks.
Only Hillary Clinton is tied to Monsanto.
Only Hillary Clinton was labeled " Extremely careless " about national security by the FBI !
Only Hillary Clinton said she will raise taxes on the middle class.
Only Hillary Clinton benefited from the DNC rigging an election !
Only Hillary Clinton had to return stolen items from the White House.
Only Hillary Clinton said the Benghazi victims parents where lying.
Only Hillary Clinton wants you to vote for her based on her gender.
Only Hillary Clinton has no real accomplishments after a lifetime in politics.
Only Hillary Clinton has never created any jobs.
Only Hillary Clinton has been investigated by the FBI and found to have put national security at risk.
Only Hillary Clinton has had two or more movies and several documentaries made about her questionable ethics and integrity
Only Hillary Clinton was called "Broomstick one" by the Secret Service
Only Hillary Clinton made congress and others spend millions and millions of tax dollars having hearings and investigating her to find that she lied, that would not have been spent if she would of simply told the truth in the first place ! Fact - all facts !
Only Hillary Clinton regularly cussed out and belittled her Secret Service detail.
Only Hillary Clinton

 

I noticed that maybe Hillery forget to take her ADHD medication (I bet a $ that she used it in the last debate...notice how her changed in THAT one as the night went on?)...she didn't seem as focused...
The other explanation is that maybe it was just the Parkinson disease that she is rumored to have kicking in....mornings are usually ok, but evenings are tough if you have ever know folks battling this...and hate to say it, 100% honestly, she has some symptoms....all just speculation...honestly...but look at the list if stuff she "forgot".....

 

That's good enough for a Facebook post!! Piss off more of my Democratic friends....they are like cockroaches in Massachusetts!! They scurry around.... complaining about taxes, then want free services.....

 

Nothing happened last night to change anyone's minds that were already pro-Hillary or pro-Trump. Independent voters look to be going to Hillary in substantial numbers. Again, my hopes are on keeping a republican majority in the senate.

So much hogwash last night from both sides--Trump--the wall--will never happen, colossal waste of money much better spent elsewhere even if it did, and Hillary--Obamacare--Trump was absolutely right, unless it's radically reformed or repealed, it will fail from it's own weight (many states are down to one carrier--how's that for competition, and in others, rates are going up 44-50% (not the 80% the Donald threw out, but it doesn't matter, it's a huge jump that results in the same thing--unaffordable health care).

Be interesting to see how Trump's answer to contesting the election hurts him. Even Nixon didn't do that, and he had a better case than Trump will.

This is better than Netflix at the moment. Well, maybe not that good...

Dave, I hope you copied and pasted that. That is a crapton of typing, you'll get carpal tunnel, and Obamacare will deny your claim, when they find out how it happened. And you know they will...

 

I'm curious...

A Candidate says election is "rigged". In the off chance the candidate wins, how does that candidate justify "rigged" allegations?

 

It's not how he replies it how Clinton and the Media replies.


I see it going something like this> " How did we loose, we had everything rigged for us to win. "

 

Hillary now thinks Russia is helping to rig it against her..

MSN.com had their Survey on their home page this morning. As you cast your vote you get to see the percentages of everyone elses vote. This morning-
Trump as at 53%
Hillary was at 34%
"other" and "undecided" had the rest.. So all this poll talk depends on who is doing the polls. This one is open to anyone with internet access and willing to take the 45 seconds to click a few buttons..

 

That's not the question that was asked.

 

So you are pretty confident that the Donald has this wrapped up? Confident enough to wager you M/A membership?

 

There is no "off chance", he's already lost, and lost badly (The possibility of Hillary receiving 400 electoral votes is out there, just read a republican strategist thinks she'll be close to that), and he knows it. Spin control, because not only will he have the egg of the presidential election on his face, but losing the senate majority now looks likely, and what was unthinkable a few months ago, losing a majority in the House looks like a distinct possibility. It's a bad time to be a Republican.

But you're right; it would have made more sense to go with that line of reasoning after the election, win or lose.

 

I don't really care what you asked, you are on Obama care and I along with other tax paying Americans are paying for it.