I'll just toss this out there...

Yeah and your point is? Rules of the thread? Sunshine and Rainbows? This is the real world not some BS make believe world.

 

What I meant is that those 14 were all weak to begin with, none of them had a chance against whoever the Dem nominee was. You mentioned Bernie, he is another person that could have really caused a stir if he would have went independent. The Dems were never going to let him get the nod because he was/is too much of a wildcard for the party. The Republicans only backed Trump because they knew they were weak and like you said, once the Trump train got rolling there was no stopping it. If he does get elected, I wonder how long it will be until he flips sides (will probably depend on what happens with Congressional seats). Like has been mentioned, he is a businessman first (he will do what it takes to get what he wants).


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Never will an independent win the Presidency ever. We are a two party country and that will not change.

Bernie is a socialist and always has been he only ran for the Dems because he thought he had a chance to win. He has never worked a day in his life. Free college is Crock, I do not want to pay for other kids to go to school. Plies room,board, food and books would not be free. Also schools would raise tuition over what the government would pay so that plan is a failure already.

Ever hear of executive power? That's how Hillary plans to change gun laws and limit your rights. Just look at here dealings with the State Department and the DOJ during the e-mail scandal. Remember the snipers in Bosnia? Come on people wake up.

She not TRUMP put her hand on the Bible and swore to serve the government of the AMERICA PEOPLE. She has lied so much she can not be trusted to run this great country.

 

READ AND UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH. So here's the REAL story. Amb. Stevens was sent to Benghazi post haste in order to retrieve US made Stinger missiles supplied to Ansar al Sharia without Congressional oversight or permission. Hillary brokered the deal through Stevens and a private arms dealer named Marc Turi. Then some of the shoulder fired missiles ended up in Afghanistan used against our own military. It was July 25th, 2012 when a Chinook helicopter was taken down by one of our own Stingers, but the Taliban didn't arm the missile and the Chinook didn't explode, but had to land anyway. An ordnance team recovered the serial number off the missile which led back to a cache of Stingers being kept in Qatar by the CIA. Obama and Hillary were now in full panic mode and Stevens was sent in to retrieve the rest of the Stingers. This was a "do-or-die" mission, which explains the stand down orders given to multiple commando teams. It was the State Dept, not the CIA that supplied them to our sworn enemies, because Petraeus wouldn't supply these deadly weapons due to their potential use on commercial aircraft. Then, Obama threw Gen. Petraeus under the bus after he refused to testify that he OK'd the made up talking points about a spontaneous uprising due to a Youtube video. Obama and Hillary committed treason...and THIS is what the investigation is all about, why she had a private server, (in order to delete the digital evidence), and why Obama, two weeks after the attack, told the UN that the attack was because of a Youtube video, even though everyone knew it was not. Further...the Taliban knew that this administration aided and abetted the enemy without Congressional approval when Boehner created the Select Cmte, and the Taliban began pushing the Obama Administration for the release of 5 Taliban Generals. Bowe Bergdahl was just a pawn...everyone KNEW he was a traitor. So we have a traitor as POTUS that is not only corrupt, but compromised...and a woman that is a serial liar, perjured herself multiple times at the Hearing whom is running for POTUS. Only the Dems, with their hands out, palms up, will support her. Perhaps this is why no military aircraft was called in...because the administration knew our enemies had Stingers.

 

And, they had no alternative but to kill Stevens and the staff. With all he knew of what was going on, they had to be sacrificed. Petraeus is lucky he's alive.... We've just witnessed the latest chapter of an American experiment gone horribly wrong. What a stinking, steamy pile of Horse *****! Stand by for the next.

 

You complain about Dave's comments to Nathan and then post this...smh




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There's a big difference between satire and venom.

 

Dave and Firebro, I won't say that I would shocked if this is true because I expect that these types of things have been going on for decades with both parties. The US supports one regime to take down another regime and then ends up in conflict with the regime they originally supported. What I find interesting is that with as much time and money that the Republicans spent investigating Benghazi, there still was no significant action taken.

Dave, you talk about how we will never be more than a two party system, but that is what keeps dividing this country. Both sides play to the fears/anxiety of their supporters about the other side to keep things in check. The Benghazi situation is not that different to the Iran/Contra situation, except for the fact we now live in a world where it is harder to hide what is going on. Like I mentioned before, I would bet that most presidents in the last several decades have blood on their hands, but the government agencies were better able to keep it under wraps.

 

Both sides are guilty of incorrect nation building. The left jumped all over Bush for it now they do it and no one blinks an eye. We should not be in the nation building business.

Brian we are a 2 party system for president because that's how the election system works. If the system were popular vote a multi-party system would have a better chance.

All the investigations don't go anywhere because the DOJ won't let anything happen. They are the same party.

It is almost impossible for a republican candidate to will a presidential election now.
Look at what the left has:

• Unlimited money from wall street, corporations, and other countries.
• All of the media.
• The unified support of their entire party.
• The justice system.
• Action groups for peaceful and violent protests.
• A major supporter, donor, and player that has made almost half the voting machines

If Hilary wins the republicans win not have another president for generations. She will, through the courts and executive order, change the laws so that it can never happen. Please don't say congress will stop her because we all know it won't.

I know some of you don't like Trump and want to vote 3rd party. I respect that. But if she takes the White House we all will be worse off than we are now in 4 years and the country will be unrecognizable in 8. You just have to read and listen to what she says she wants to do and what it will do to you. The money has to come from somewhere and the rich don't have enough.

 

The truth hurts sometimes.

The lesson is: Don't poke the bear if you do not want to get bit. Nathan knows this.

 

What is interesting about your last paragraph is that I heard the same message 8 years ago (along with the ever popular "Obama is coming to take your guns") and saw multiple statements that the people should revolt, but yet nothing. It begs the question, what will you (I mean all of the anti-Hillary people on here) do if she does win? Sit around and be a victim or do something about it.


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We are trying do something about it now before so we can stop her getting into White House and tries to use Executive Power to change gun laws without Congress's support.

 

Let's see, if I can avoid stepping in a pile of dog **** to keep from having to clean my shoes afterwards, isn't that a smart thing to do.....

 

Very well said.

 

Just a thought that happened to cross my mind: If I was running for any type of office and felt I had any chance of winning why would I start making a big issue out of the fact that the election was rigged BEFORE the election was even held. Wouldn't it be embarrassing if I won? Wouldn't a reasonably intelligent person wait till they lost before claiming the election was rigged? Or perhaps is that person doing nothing more than developing a fan base to support the upcoming tv station he's going to buy?

 

Hillary is going to win, and it's probably going to be a landslide. Congress CAN stop her, but it requires a republican majority in the Senate, which still can happen. The problem is Trump has caused a ton of collateral damage to republican candidates, that's where he's killing the party--not in the presidential election, which he's going to lose, but in congressional and local elections.

Nationally, there is a 1% difference in voters favoring the democratic party. That doesn't sound like much, but it's huge. It doesn't mean that republicans can't win, or even win majorities, but that they have no margin of error. This election is a perfect storm; I have my fingers crossed that enough republicans will support the congressional candidates to blunt what's going to happen in the presidential election, but we may ended up in a huge hole, and you're scenario could then very well play out.