This seems to be the advice I needed to hear. I checked SCCA rules and an intercooler would change my class and I don't need that. Tires and wheels- here I come. Lighter wheels and stickier tires-Yahoooo!
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Onramp Enjoy the Hiways of Life!Supporting Member
If your new wheels are attached to a Gen1 car, the factory intercooler does a pretty good job, and outperforms most of the aftermarket parts. Will the new IC bump you up a class?
If yes, the potential change in performance won't be worth it.
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If auto crossing is your driving force, I suggest ditching the run flats and the heavy factory wheels for non-run flats and lighter wheels. That will boost your cars performance more than adding horsepower.
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I believe improving performance in the "Weight to HP" ratio is the goal. So either one can change the numerator, or change the denominator. Either on will help it just sort of goes to how much money one can afford. If he can get around 200 HP for about $2K that would be the equivalent of trying to find how to reduce weight by almost 250# which is harder and more costly - IMHO. I figure, whatever is cheaper to do first, but keep moving in the direction of getting Wt/HP lower.
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Dwight Racing with the GodsLifetime Supporter
Get the Helix stepped core FMIC! Had mine a year and I seldom see more then a 1-2deg difference between ambient and IAT.
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Way Motor Works New Member
What AutoX class are you trying to run? Wheel size can also effect your classing.
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Way Motor Works New Member
I have to look again to make 100% sure but off the top of my head I don't think you can be wider than 8inch for STX. I've got some new wheels coming soon that we will be stocking that will be great for this.
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Way Motor Works New Member
If your that serious into AutoX I would suggest the Hsport Comp sway bar. Then I would make camber plates move up to the top of your list as that will save you alot of $$ on tire wear, and make you faster.
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Those last two points are high on my list of important things to consider.
When I purchased and installed the 19mm sway bar in my first Mini, it was the Hotchkis brand and it looked as though if it were any bigger it wouldn't fit. Does the 25.5 mm fit in the 2010 Cooper S? Camber plates? Way out of my league for research and intelligent choice making in terms of pros and cons and unintended consequences. The car is a mostly daily driver with a once or twice a month autocross. The Vorshlag plates sounded good in the most recent reviews. Is this a slippery slope that leads to a novice driver to chasing one mod after another? I want to make sure I feel and learn how to appreciate each change in tuning up the performance of the car. -
BThayer23 Well-Known Member
You'll still have a good daily driver with camber plates and a thick rear sway bar. And yes the 25.5mm hollow bar will fit. It comes with different brackets and bushings.
When you start getting custom valved shocks and installing a roll bar, then you're pushing the car over the line towards a competition car. Don't worry, you're nowhere near that. Camber plates and sway bar will actually make the car a better daily driver. -
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+1 for camber plates, if allowed by your class. Lots of folks run them on daily drivers with no ill effects. And HUGE front grip improvement when cornering.
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Little rougher ride when you strike big seams but from having had both the IE fixed and the adjustable Vorshlags?
Vorshlag hands down.