No national club for me. I enjoy the MINI crowd because it's laid back, no politics, no egos, just a bunch of different personalities enjoying their cars and each other. I believe that injecting a national club into MOTD would take the grass roots fabric from the event.
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From what I have seen here locally, MINI would do much better if they weren't constantly tied to BMW. I appreciate BMW, but frankly, they don't want us kicking their butts any more than we want to lower ourselves to constantly doing it...
I just went through being treated like a red-headed step child in buying a new Coupe for my wife through a BMW-centric dealership, and frankly, I wanted to tell their finance people to kiss my arse before it was all said and done with.
Same goes with tying ourselves to BMWCCA. Nothing wrong with using their model, but I will never join BMWCCA just because I don't feel MINI is a spin off. It is its own brand and doesn't need BMW to stand alone.
Getting out from under that umbrella trickles down to clubs, also. I think if a national club were to be done, it would need to be independent of BMW and their idea of how things are.
MINI's are NOT BMW's and their owners tend to not be modern BMW-types either.
Clubs are a lot of work... I know! But we have been steadily growing and doing things at even a state level is a huge challenge. Going national would bring a whole other set of challenges and I think it is unnecessary. I think getting the local and regional clubs that already exist to communicate more would help create an overlapping mesh that would create a very fun, very social MINI network.
MA has gone a long way to creating a place for that to happen.-
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Mr. Jim MudsharkLifetime Supporter
A National MINI club as I see it would be nothing but trouble, too many different personalities just as many different types of MINI's. Now with the MINI's that's a great thing with personalities not very good at all.
Barry and staff did a fantastic job this year and adding a National club to the mix would only bring it down. IMHO.
Gotta leave politics out of the mix.-
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This would be a good time to remind all the club leadership on M/A about the Presidents Lounge you have access to for the discussion of club management ideas and issues you may encounter.
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To what benefit? Why and what for? If local clubs fill the need why then have a mothership hovering about looking for funding and sticking her nose where it need not be stuck? In general more organization results in less creativity, spontaneity and an increase in rules and regulation. MINI prides itself on youification not usification and a big brother organization seems counter to that philosophy. Sure it may fit the BMW crowd but not the MINI bunch.
That's just my opinion.-
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I know this thread is almost three years old but there I was standing around in the Detroit Tuned / Todds Mods tent at MOTD. There on the table was the latest issue of MC2 that Barry (the MC2 one, not the Snooter one) was giving away from his MOTD tent. Since I like to keep up to date with what everyone has to say I read his column. Loo and behold this very subject is back again.
This got me thinking, is the idea of a National Club for MINI just the ramblings of one man that is trying to push more magazines or is there really merit to the idea?
I read through this thread again and thought we covered the topic pretty well. That was three years ago.
Has the landscape changed to the point where a national club would be more acceptable?
For those of you that just attended MOTD, what could a national club have done to make the event even better than the way it was executed and run by Snooter and few handful's of volunteers?
I don't really see the need for a national body to oversee or help guide the local entities for the most part. Where I think it could help is if a club in an area is weak and about to disband. A National entity could possibly help keep such a club going, possibly.
Please share your thoughts on this as MC2 has obviously not given up on the idea and it may effect us in someway if MC2 ever does get its bearing and get a national afloat.-
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Mr. Jim MudsharkLifetime Supporter
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Being very new to MA as well as the club idea, my thoughts may be of little value. But from what my MINI compatriots have been saying on this thread, a national club of individual members does not seem to garner much interest and, in fact, some considerable concern over what are considered liabilities.
For the few advocates, it seems that a voluntary national coalition of local clubs might be in order as a means for clubs to share and pool resources. That, too, would require resources including operating funds and volunteer workers. Local clubs are the only possible benefactors, it seems to me, and if local clubs were not interested, the handwriting would be on the wall.
From what I can tell, there does not appear to be a a good rationale nor a positive need nor a strong desire for a national club of individual members.-
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Only standard a club needs is that they like and enjoy Mini Coopers.
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