Running good, ready for another 130000 miles. :fingerscrossed:
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DneprDave Well-Known MemberSupporting Member
About a thousand dollars and some elbow grease is way cheaper than a new car.
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Minidave Well-Known MemberLifetime Supporter
Some local KC club members had been getting this code for a while too, and had thrown plugs, wires, coils etc at it without curing the problem, so they called me...... I loaned them my compression tester and sure enough - 50lbs on cyl 3.
They did the work themselves (other than the machine shop to do the valves- which was about $400 too!) and they wound up replacing the cam as well......the car now runs as well as it did when new and they are still in love with it - it's a 2005 Justa Cabriolet BTW with about 200K on it....original CVT too!
So, unless you're just ready for a new car, like Dave says it's a worthy investment. -
Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
It all comes down to do you want a car payment or not.
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Thanks for the input. Car payment is not really an issue, as we've been thinking of replacing my wife's Dodge anyway. Would trade the MINI against a new car for her, and I would take over the Dodge as my daily driver.
The only thing that makes me even think about fixing the Justa is how much I enjoy driving the damn thing. Get behind the wheel of a Gen 1 MINI, and all reasonable logic flies out of the window. -
Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
Save your gen 1.
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In all I have ordered almost $1500 in parts to refresh my 02 S. I can't think of a car I would want more with the exception of a 06 JCW or a Gen 1 GP. So to me it is worth fixing. I really wish I could send the motor to RMW and let them do their magic, maybe some time down the road.
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^^^^ What he said
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The cheapest car is the one you already own. If you still love it fix it, it has many more miles left in it. If your MINI has a CVT (ticking time bomb) trade it in, because that one will kill you with its replacement co$t. Good luck.
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Home from work!!!
On top of all the parts needed, are there any special tools that are required to do the job. Have all the usual wrenches, sockets, torque wrenches, etc.
Also, what kind of psi are we looking for on the comp test? I can get the factory figures from Bentley, but what psi is realistic on a 128000 mile motor? And what tolerance, ie +/- 10%? -
DneprDave Well-Known MemberSupporting Member
Any special tools will be listed in the bentley manual. If you don't already have one, get one, before you do the job.
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Minidave Well-Known MemberLifetime Supporter
135 - 150 or more on the compression - what you hope for is an even reading across the cylinders - more than 10% difference is cause for pulling the head but I have a feeling you'll find one of them a lot lower.
A CVT is no more of a time bomb than a Midlands 5 speed........both require fresh fluid on a regular basis to keep them healthy. There are two CVT's in the KC club over 200K and still going strong - the one with the higher mileage (close to 300K now) has been tracked regularly too.......both get regular fluid changes every 30K at the dealership. -
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Of course one should do the required service. Still a Midlands or CVT = a Time-Bomb ticking. :yesnod: Justa my opinion. I know what that is worth. :wink:
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Mine is an '06, 5 speed Getrag.
Will do the comp test this weekend. Got to work both days (or nights, 3rd shift), but will have to make time somehow. Usually work 9 1/2 to 10 hrs with a 75 minute commute each way. -
Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
Remember every Chili Red 1st Gen is worth saving.
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RallyMini370 Well-Known Member
When I got my R50 #2 valve was burnt out, so I got a S head off Ebay UK with 20,000miles at a cost of $200 plus $150 shipping. I fitted that and new timing chain guides , problem solved.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/mini-cooper-s-cylinder-head-/302162936569?hash=item465a5082f9:g:GAgAAOSwB09YOdov -
Chris, thanks for that option. S head fitted to a Justa.
Car goes in tomorrow to have compression check, and a general check over. If, as I expect, Cyl 3 shows low compression, I will have to make a decision as to what to do.
1, Fix it myself, but parts are bloody expensive. Per Nick at DT, valves (Cooper S, harder wearing) $40 each, timing chain/guides $180. Add to that gaskets, seals, head bolts, special tools, etc, and the parts bill alone could be $800 +.
2, Have DT fix it (about 150 miles away), and have the knowledge that the job has been done well. But that ain't going to be cheap.
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Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
Save the MINI and have Chad at DT fix it.
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RallyMini370 Well-Known Member
Here's how I found out it was a burnt out exhaust valve. I put the suspect cylinder to both valves closed then put an airline in the spark plug hole used the compression check line. Then pumped in a few PSI and put a tissue over the tail pipe. The tissue moved so this proved the valve was bad.
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