In traffic I'll take the auto anyday. Actually today's +/- paddle/stick shifting is pretty good. The 2013 Accent I drive shifts really quick shifting compared to the auto's of yester year. Of course I'd like a sequential box for the Mini but that's $$$$$$$$$$ Meanwhile I'll fight on with the Midlands
So to try and pull my thread back on topic... My Dragon tires came today... They wont have this much tread for long! Kept with the 215/45/17 since I was on that size when I set the suspension up, but this is better than the 50 treadwear on the NT-01's...
As long as they last until I can either sell my brakes, or come up with the cash for the rest of the 15" wheels and new Nitto's...
Nitto 01's might quite possible be the best bang for your buck high grip tire out there. You have to start getting into things like Hoosier's before you make a big jump. They don't last long though, but at their treadwear rating, they shouldn't.
The last set went about 5K miles, and still have a smidge of rubber left on the insides... Hoosier's are cheaper, but no DOT number, so if a cop on a power trip pulls me over, it would be one more thing for them to B**** about.
Dick, put the pipe down. Hoosiers are nowhere close to being cheaper, quite the opposite, unless you're buying one-offs. And if you run Hoosier's on the street, you'll better throw an extra set in the boot, you'll be changing them every third traffic light or so.
The price for the Hoosiers is right. That's for the tire only I'm betting. The price you showed for the Nittos was with mounting and balancing. Nittos are $157 at Discount Tire, free shipping. Mounting and balancing shouldn't cost 70 bucks a tire, at least it's nowhere near that here.
145.00 retail for the new Dunlop Star Secs II. Same rating as your Nitto 's. * I dont pay retail and I get free mounting and balancing at my friends shop. :ihih: The best part is they work in the rain and are not just DOT dry competition tires.
Dave, don't know how to say this other than you're wrong on this. The Nittos 01 is 100 treadwear, and is considered an entry level R-comp, street legal but more of a track tire. the star spec is harder, 200 treadwear, and is more of a street tire. The Nittos are significantly faster on the track, but they really need heat to stick, not a great street tire. The star spec are great for street driving, and are good in the track, but are a step down from RA1's and Nitto's, just like RA1's and Nittos are a step down from Hoosiers. It depends on what you're using them for, but they are two very different tires. The Nittos are hands down quicker on the track. They're not great in wet, and I wouldn't use them as a street tire--they'll wear too fast, and you really need to be hitting track cornering speeds to get the benefit out of them.
Right but dicks car, now that it's running, is a street / rusty show car. I get what you are saying and I 100% agree for a autocross / track car. Now would you put those tires on you car and drive from dicks place to the Dragon, run the Dragon hard, and drive home on them?