I was going to stay out of this one, but here it is... Nate, with all due respect, and I do respect you, this is almost disingenuos.. First of all, it has nothing to do with the weather. Many of the snipers live in warm climates.:wink: The MINI crowd breaks down into sections. There is social crowd, who mainly do aesthetic and not so aethetic things to their MINI while trying to be aesthetic, who meet at ice cream parlors, do good deeds like canned drives and pick up roadside litter and stuff, and drive on pretty roads when the leaves change and finish it all of with a hot toddy while singing, holding hands and singing "Kumbaya." Ok, I'm being a bit facetious; I totally get this, and although it's not for me I think it's very cool people do that, that so many people who buy a car share so many common interests and bond. Those people RARELY write a discouraging word, they're way too busy being taking their "Life is Good" T-shirt seriously. And to your credit you have gotten many of them over here as their "home" instead of NAM. But the other faction you had a ton of experience with at NAM, and you KNEW this would happen. It's the nature of the beast. Because the majority of the truly hardcore modders are all wound tight, wether they be vendors or consumers. You wanted to bring in all sides, and hoped everyone who had been banned from NAM would somehow now get along. That was NEVER going to happen, and it never will. There are too many hidden agendas, too much has been said in public and private for people to just set it down, heck, there has even been physical threats made, which is the only thing that really bothers me. There are people in the community that genuinely do not like each other. There will always be these arguments. So you can ban everyone like NAM, live with it, or maybe set up an unmoderated area with a warning, like several of the MIATA sites, where everyone has their "big boy" pants on. You could even trial it for short period of time to see if it works or not. We're adults, this isn't a kid site. You could call it "The Playground", and if people on the moderated forums were pissing you off, you could move their posts there, and tell them to take it to the playground. I've been torched here before, but I have NEVER reported a post or a user, and never will, nor have I ever asked for a thread to be moderated, either by myself or someone else. I simply don't care what someone writes about me here or anywhere else. Be nice if I could go to place where everyone else had the same understanding. But if you're not going to do it, either start banning like NAM, or come to the realization that it's not every going to be utopia. I realize this is so long probably no one will read it. That's not necessarily a bad thing.
Idk about you but we had an extremely late winter here(southwest MO). It didnt snow until late january, and we still have snow in march. but only about 18 more days to come.
And now you got me going,,, if it takes being a bigger prick then the last guy that posted, regardless of the topic, on a car site, and you truthfully believe that elevates you to some kind of standing, please take your sorry ass for a reason to argue elsewhere...
Stupid post like the one above just piss people off. It really sounds like you are one of the people that should find the door and walk out it. As for me, I am an ass hole in person and I have never cared and still don't care what anyone thinks of me on the Internet.
Mark, I like you but..... Be careful what you ask for. If that happens, you will be NAM lite. I don't like NAM, except for the marketplace. I rarely go there, haven't in weeks. I like this site, there are a number of people here who's posts I go out of my way to read because I respect them. I don't hang out here as much as I used to because frankly because I get the feeling certain people are more welcome here than others. But if you want me or anyone else to leave, just say it. You still have the site with the most people who actually know anything about modding a car, NAM has virtually nothing. If you want them, occasionally you're going to have contentious arguments, it's the nature of the beast, you may be able to slightly tame the beast, but you can't kill it. That's the price you pay, if you want to entertain and attract the modding crowd. Maybe you don't. If you don't want that crowd, just keep posting what you did, and they'll go away to other places. You'll have a site where the most serious question will be, "Is Mobile 1 any good?" Very stimulating threads, that really drive up traffic. Like NAM.
Contrary to what has been posted, M/A has been a very civil place for a long time. It is only recently that the negative posting has started, as some new folks found their way here. Up until now, Dave O. was the only ass hole we had to contend with and very few folks would rise to his comments, so he was not much of a problem. I agree with Lotise, simply leave, if M/A is not the place for you. Most of us like it the way it has been running. Jim
Lets slow it down please. I said my piece, asked for a little more civility, that's all. As I've always said, debate and distention is good. There are ways to be some what polite about it. As a group we slipped from where we were, please bring it back to level we had. Not looking for a utopia, just a modicum of civility.
Agreed! I stay out of most everything, but some people just piss me off to where I want to step in. I can think of one guy that does this the most to me and others... (No its not our resident ass hole, Dave O) its the guy that starts crying and complaining the second somebody dis agrees with him. The guy who feels that it is ok for him to make a few short jabs in somebody's direction, then cant take it when jabs are returned. The guy who does everything he can to try and derail whatever thread he wants, just because it is about a tuner or products that he does not support... That guy should be shown the door. Maybe after being forced over to places like MT, and being torn apart by a mob of blood thirsty foreigners, he will man up and realize his **** smells just as bad as everybody else in the world. I for one would love a punch out "Playground" thread with no rules. Just to go and vent, and to finally call out the BS as I see it. Problem is that is where I would spend 99% of my time, and I couldn't inject myself into anybody else's perfectly good threads anymore.
I'm working on that. Have a new project that I've started with a partner. The domain has been purchased. Just working on the details, getting it setup, and playing with it before going public with morallybankrupt.info (Nothing at that domain yet, nothing will come up. go ahead, try if you don't believe me, you will get nothing. )
FYI I have been around just as long if not longer than most of you tool bags on this site so if you dont like what I post dont effin reply to my post. Nathan please please please make a free for all section so I can really say how I feel about other members without all the drama.
PEOPLE STOP and grow up . . . This looks like crap to new MATURE M/C owners . . . Grow some and stop your whining . . . Your immature behaviour makes me sick like 4 doors on a Porsche or a SUV . . . take your tudes some where else :mad5:
It will never be contained, and will spill over to all the other forums/threads. Seen it happen many times. Pricks/Aholes/Jerks/ find a way to spread their poop around:cornut: