Engine Drivetrain 1st Gen Cooper S Launch Control / 2 step

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    ....is now working, ready for the new season



    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irKs5eqJU-4&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Mini Launch Control (1320)[/ame]
     
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    Can nobody simply turn the smart phone 90 degrees so you get a decent video ! ! !
     
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    It's due to the UK being taller than wide. :D

    Anyway, Paul, thanks for sharing. Can we get some details on this as well please.
     
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    Sorry I am not Paul but can answer to some degree?

    While I do not know what system they are using on this MINI in the video I can explain how it works. The Mini ignition is on what is called a waste spark ignition system using a coil pack or transformer with dual towers. This configuration is called a “Waste Spark System”. This means that each side of the coil is fired but only one cylinder is under compression, so the other spark is wasted. When you utilize a lunch control or RPM limiting devise or control the better ones will cancel the spark at every other cylinder to prevent the RPM from gaining. When doing so the gas still is injected into the cylinder and raw gas into the exhaust which is subsequently ignited by either heat or the exhaust charge of another cylinder.This type of system does not cause harm to the engine or exhaust system and only a slight amount of raw gas is expelled?
    I have had an MSD on my MINI for several years that does as the video in this thread depicts. I mainly used it to limit the cars ability to go beyond a chosen RPM level when using NOS. For drag racing you can activate the 2 step device stage your car and floor the accelerator pedal and wait for the green light. By either pushing or releasing a button to cancel the 2 step launch control and go to full ignition firing. This helps lower both your 60 foot times as well your overall 1/4 time and MPH. The real pro's will also have a control on the clutch slave to release it as well during the launch sequence so you don't have to worry about side stepping the clutch pedal.

    The MSD DIS-2 in this pictures has Launch and 2 step capacity.
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    Thanks.

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    Thats so funny Nate :lol:
     
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    Now that is a fart pipe. :Thumbsup:
     
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    To be accurate…a “fart” that is to say the emitted gas is methane and when ignited produces “carbon dioxide” and burns with a blue flame.
    Gasoline when ignited produces “carbon monoxide” and if enough oxygen is introduced burns with a blue flame. So argumentatively not really the same as a "fart" ? :lol:
     
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    I'm sure Crashton new that, his doughnut level was low when he posted. :cornut:

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    Another thing to mention about a 2 step device is that it can be used as an anti-theft devise. You can either set it on an extremely low RPM setting or have it completely disable the ignition. As well they can run other RPM related components. You may have a cooling fan or say water injection come on at a "known" RPM range. These type of devises are great for more then just racing purposes.
     
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    Nitrominis I looked at getting the racelogic traction control/launch contol system last year.... however I was told by the company that it would not work on a mini because

    Why would this not work and the MSD system would?????
     
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    Very interesting. :Thumbsup:

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    #16 Nitrominis, Dec 14, 2010
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    I am not familiar with the RLTC so I couldn't tell you? You might ask Paul which devise they are running in the MINI pictured in this thread? I have had the MSD DIS-2 for about 5 years set on WS and have never in any case had my MINI go to limp(safe running) mode. Also A few have converted to 4 single coils based off the WS system without issues. One of those here on MA is Onasled Racing (Greg). I personally have connected 4 coils without concern only back burner the project because of design location for the installation conversion.
     
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    Paul is such a tease haha. The system that he is using is a plug and play standalone ECU specifically designed for the R53. IT IS NOT A PIGGY BACK
     
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    Yeah, I thought so. I couldn't come up with a BMW vehicle where a launch control ecu would be sourced. Tricky yaropeans:D
     

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