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Well why would anybody want to PM you for a standard price, when they are going to see it on any of the distribution websites? "Tell them Jonathan sent you" that sounds a wee bit like you are connected to them... Not many companies who build parts even have a showroom at the manufacturing facility or company HQ, and even less just let people in to see what its all about. The fact that they know you by name is as fishy as the front end of an F56 to me...

Now for my M-garbage experiences...

So a good while back, I was new to MINIs, saw M7's website and they didnt offer much (2009 timeframe, but not much has changed in that department) however, what they offered looked good in the pictures, the price was on the high end so I expected quality when I made my orders.

Being deployed to Iraq at the time, and having all the parts shipped to my house, I never got a chance to see anything in person until I returned home in late 2010.

When I did rotate back to the world, I made my way through the garage full of boxes, opened up the $700 and some odd dollar M7 C rap-Wing, pulled out the CF wing blade, and it looked decent, then the fiberglass base came out... Right away I noticed the poor craftsmanship, the pitted glasswork, the waves, the total lack of prep before the monkeys sprayed it with Duplicolor rattlecan quality "primer." When I went to assemble the wing 2 of the nutserts in the blade where loose but didnt rotate in their holes, the base had one that would just spin in its hole under finger pressure! So much for being worth that $700!

Then the $350 DFIC exit scoop... I pulled that out of the box, same rattlecanesque primed finish was what I first saw, then I noticed the thickness on each side of the part... One side the curvature ended about 1/16 of an inch before a 90 degree drop down to the bottom of the piece, thats not a big deal (its within my idea of a reasonable tolerance) the other side on the other hand had a 3/16 drop to the base! Almost 1/4" really! An eighth inch difference between right and left? WTF, thats what you get with eBay Chinese copies, not a $300 original quality piece! Then I tried to use their "template" to cut and drill the holes in the hood so I could mount it... An oversize xerox copy of a hand drawn sketch... How is this supposed to be accurate? After making all the measurements, cutting the holes and mounting the scoop, I went to close the hood, guess what the mounting studs where too long! One of them hit the intercooler it was designed to be used with, and I had to cut 1/2" off of that stud just to close the hood with no interference!
So much for actually being engineered to fit properly!

The strut brace... Looks ok, but you have to remove the under hood insulation or your hood wont close properly! On top of that you can wiggle the bar like a limp noodle with minimal hand pressure... And this is supposed to control chassis flex in a 2800 pound car? Good thing MINI did their job right, or the thing would probably bend like a popsicle stick the first time you took a hard corner at speed.

My buddy's who own Peak Eurosport in Denver, liked the look of my wing so they went and got one for their R53 shop car without me knowing... When I saw it, I explained to Chris and Earnie what a POS mine turned out to be, and sure enough a month after being on their car, the CF/fiberglass dehydrated, shrank, and looked like a wavy eBay body kit for a Honda!

Then theres the whole copying issue of the JS art canards. The first pictures posted where a direct copy only done in CF. When Joel originally sold a set of originals to Randy Twillwigger he gave specific instructions that they where not to be copied in any way shape or form by M7 or its affiliates... 2 Years later, so much for running an honest business!

So yeah, M7 just leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths... Kinda like burnt hair and Cheetos with a side of ********! The company may have changed hands in ownership, yet the products, website pictures, and from what I have personally seen the "stellar Quality" is still able to be pulled from the box and used on your trophy winning show car with just simple installation...

Yeah right, its crap, always has been crap, always will be crap!

But its expensive so it must be good crap.

But I do have to thank them, now my R53 looks great with all of their products removed, and my trash can probably gained 100 horsepower for that 3 days it was all in there before heading off to the landfill.

So thanks M7, for making me throw away a couple thousand dollars, so I could realize that if you want your car to look good and be built with quality you've got to build it yourself.



She looks great now!

 

M7 Box O crap.... :lol:

Thanks for posting that Nathan. Now Dave & I don't have to. :biggrin5:

 

Yep, there is only a limited way to canards, strut bars, etc. you can develop it yourself, or demand someone who has already designed one sell you one so you can copy it, and explain to them that if they don't sell it to you, they'll get it from someone else. In other words, there is a right way and a wrong way.

He would have been better off renaming the company and making a clean break with M7. Because the M7 reputation falls somewhere in between Palo Uber and Whore-izon.

If you don't have a stick in this fire, why did you request we tell him "Jonathan sent you?"

 

....and the fun begins

 

Yes you are right I am an uninformed new guy who has only been with my MINI for 9 years & admired them for 3 years before that. Yep I know nothing.:smilewinkgrin:

You are wrong there are lots of nice folks here. I don't agree with everything everyone says, but I maintain the ability to be friends with those I do not agree with. I understand some folks do not have that ability jiminni.

 

I have never bought any M7 stuff. But I have looked at some of their ideas and like them.

If I was the new owner of M7 I would put together a nice letter explaining they are aware of past issues, what they are doing to make sure they don't happen now, and ask people to give them a chance. Then I would ask the major MINI sites to put it up. I might even go as far as asking people to ask reasonable questions (without barbs) so I could have an opportunity to respond.

Just my 2 cents

 

Prospective from a New Comer.
I have spent a little time here as well as a few other sites, some more than others now.

I do not own or have I ever purchased M7 parts and I owe that to the individuals on this site. I can see not everyone agreeing or liking a company’s product, to each his/her own. I don’t agree with everyone’s opinions here and I think I have expressed that with my likes and dislikes in past posts. But there are a few that have earned the bad rep they have here and it would be in my eyes, pretty freaking ignorant to jump in the same rabbit hole that a whole community has basically barracked for all the FNGs’ safety.
There was a dinner the last night of MINIPalooza 2014 and I sat at a table with an individual that was sporting a M7 shirt. Eventually conversation gravitated towards M7. I shared my opinions based on what I have read here and I heard the same comments that JHendern1986 made at the beginning of this thread, ownership had changed, quality was increasing and new components were being developed. I was kind of hoping that was case, I mean M7 pricing is a little ridiculous in my eyes, but hey if there is something worth it anything is possible.
Change the name, develop something worth buying… at a reasonable price.

 

I'd think this is a shill a lot less if the same post wasn't popping up on MINI based sites all over the world.

The tone and tenor of the post sounds like a press release too.

I'd be more open if M7 didn't sell garbage in the past. I have first hand experience on how most of the stuff in the catalog was carp that looked good.

There is not a lot of love lost with companies such as M7 that promise the sun, moon and stars then deliver a box of carp.

 

I didn't buy strut reinforcement plates. I haven't had any problems with mushrooming either. I also feel I got my money's worth.:devil:

So JHendren, the ownership changed, and is still selling the same inferior M7 parts and counterfeited canards, and we're supposed to take your word for it, you with a total now of 8 posts here, that things have changed. Sorry, no. Many of us have been around awhile, we know better, we've all been burned and have no desire to see someone else repeat our mistakes. The onus is not on us to welcome the new owner of what was a crappy company, the onus is on the new owner to prove how and why the crappy company has improved, and is no longer selling counterfeit and inferior or parts to a sometimes gullible MINI crowd. This is not NAM, many here have a healthy skepticism for companies who have sold junk in the past, and forced good people out,, especially when there are many good companies who are conscientious, that have been active in the community from the beginning, who have done it the right way from day one.

I'm still incredibly pissed how JSart was screwed by M7, which resulted in the loss of wing extensions and canards that actually worked. It's going to take more than your "pm me for pricing" to make up for that.

 

Hell If the new M-garbage could come up with at least one new "original" mon counterfeit product and stop labeling their existing lineup as "new Technology" since they have always loved the word "technology" and "rapid prototyping" ( which actually means, scaning and using a 3D printer to make their own parts) I might actually have something decent to say about them...

Instead its the same old crap, same name, same worthless ( insert Randy Twillwigger) behind the company... That will be met with the same amount of RESPECT as last year...

Absolutely no respect and minimal attendance at the Dragon, followed by mysterious rocks/middle fingers aimed toward their " (POS HIPSTER) Show car from a random white Jeep in Nashville.

You want to change the company, maybe make it semi profitable? Try dropping the M-garbage name, come up with your own product and ideas, and market it as something new... Oh yeah, $500 for a damn intake... It better be a design like mine that actually works, and is not made in China or the Philipeans, or any other commie crap nation... Mine is made 100% right here in my garage/living room, assembled with true enthusiasm not a dollar figure and is still less $$ than your POS!

You want to save M7, dont bother, the original owners (Peter (( like the pecker not the salt)) and Randy ((just as useless but prefers salt for the roughness)) they ran that name so far under you will never dig it out!

Try coming up with New (un copied) technology as your website says!

If you cant do that, dont expect any less than what you are getting here and now!

 

I always wanted to be part of the 1%....
Just wish it was the RICH 1%!!:mad2:
this entire thread is amazing!!
To the op...
Is the "pricing" you are getting me any different than the posted internet website pricing?
Unfortunly m7 had a history of shoddy quality control...
Have seen some 16% m7 pullies that are the size of 15% and some the size if the 17%, and with CRAPPY CNC machining to be kind...the opposite of the "talk it up" and buy only the best, etc feeling of the website....
For the hold m7 it was buyer beware....
Might be beautiful... Might be junk, and not fit or fall off your car....
Anyway way to know if an item if "old stock" m7 tuning vs the "new" m7 speed parts?!
With a name change, it sounds like the new owners are TRYING to make a break with the past....
But why have a random individual do the announcement?
Would a announcement with a welcome back, try us 10% deal been better, gotten folks to know the name change, impacted margins a tiny bit as very focused advertising?!
Sure Nathan would have given them a membership if they were honest, and paid up to be a supporting member if they truly want to be part of the community going forward!!

 

Why do you even bother doing this Jim? We all know its going to go the same way as always: Youre going to go into your little childish hissy fit, one of us (usually me) is going to jump in and get your gobbler sack so far in a twist, you will just hide yourself under your rock again.

Sorry buddy, Im not playing your game this time. Somebody else can have you, Im out of this thread.

Just answer me one question there Jimmy... Has Lynn really been in jail for the last 6 months?

 

But surely you understand why a comment like that would raise red flags. "This is a great company with great products! Tell them Bob sent you!" How would you react to something like that?

Seriously? The most active members on this forum are hardcore 1st gen original owners.

 

We can only hope...
Let's face it...
The number of vendors doing any gen1 parts is starting to dwindle....
Maybe the torch has been passed to a decent owner...
Am I gonna be the one to test it? Most likely no...risk is too high.

 

No Dave, I dont want to build a damn snowman!

 

Only going to respond to this because it's just lies. "Garbage"? First off, going to state that haven't bought any M7 stuff in years, done with my car, only maintenance now, don't have any dealings with Peter, see Randy on FB now and again, oh and just in case, don't talk or see Lynn either, had to put that in. Only come in here to see what's up, not much, same old stuff. On to M7, "Garbage", now, yes most of this stuff was not "manufactured" by M7, but who actually makes every single part in their garage, warehouse or whatever? But a lot of it was designed by the old M7, so......

1. My hood scoop, works just as good now as it did 9 years ago, still looks great.
2. Grills, still look great.
3. Under strut, still works awesome!
4. Coilovers, still work great, and are still some of the most beefy we have ever seen for a Mini.
5. APD, not sure if the science was perfect? But still looks good.
6. SC pulley, works.
7. Crank pulley, works.
8. Aero gel, works.
9. Strut brace, works.
10. Have had the front and rear brake rotors on my car for....can't remember how long, still look great, people cannot believe that they haven't rusted? Weird?

That's it, have fun tearing me apart, peace out.

 

They could remove or cover it on existing stock. And replace it with a symbol; then they could be referred to as "the artist formerly known as M7."

 

if you bring M7 to M\A (again) and you may as well bring in ALTA, MiniMania and the other Mini crap vendors and rename M\A the NAM.

We are different for a reason. ......:ihih: Keep stupid out.