MC2 magazine out of business?

I sympathize for MC2--this relatively small niche companies in the MINI world, wether they be a vendor, magazine, etc. are not huge operations with reserves to meet all contingencies--so if something goes wrong, there is no safety net, and a part or magazine issue may be late. I have no problem with that.

But trying to control what others can or cannot say in an internet forum, especially when the complaints appear to be legitimate, is so far out of bounds as to be laughable.

Don't say anything bad about me, even if it's true. Good luck with that. Seems most people complain only after they've been ignored. Food for thought.

Nate, you should tell Barry what articles he should or shouldn't publish in his magazine. Let's see how that goes over.

 

I think you are mistaken, here is why.

The comparison is between a periodical and a product manufactured to order. For the latter as more orders for the product arrive it takes each subsequent order a longer time to be filled. A periodical such as the one discussed here has a set publishing date. Advertisers often run campaigns based on these known dates. Sure, there is some sometimes slippage a few days in either direction and there are the vagarities in delivery due to the USPS.

In this case of a bigger slippage than normal and with all the simple manners of communications we have there is no excuse for not informing subscribers. It does not take long at all to update a website with a note that Issue X is going to be few weeks late because of __________. Another is a mass email with that info and some teasers about how great the publication will be cause we held it back for a few weeks to get this great things in place.

I know the first thing I did when I saw the first post was head to the magazines site to see if there was any news. I'd bet many of you did too. Would it have been so difficult to post a notice on there? Well, in this case with this publisher I guess it is too much to ask, we've seen the same " It will be re-launched the week of December 12th" notice on GoMotoring since about November or so of 2011. Which to me speaks volumes of this entities lack of communication skills. Odd for someone in the communications business.

 

You are correct. I suppose I am guilty of comparing apples to oranges. However, the sentiment, I believe, still holds true. Getting beat up by unreasonable criticism has got to take the fun out of any enterprise and there are always other things to do with less unhappiness.

 

Thing is the criticism here or towards Asethetic wasn't completely unreasonable.
I admit complaining about you mag being 2 weeks late might be, but if your order for vinyl is 6 months late there is a need for criticism...

 

meh, I canceled my subscription years ago.

 

Personally I don't think complaining about a magazine being two weeks late is out of line, if your requests on why it's delayed, or even if it's coming, are categorically ignored. On the other hand, a simple we had an issue with x, we apologize for the delay, and all is good. Whining about people posting complaints in MA is time wasted; replying to legitimate questions on when to expect your delayed product is time well spent. If you have the time to complain to Nate about his site, seems you have time to post any issue you're having with your current issue on your own site. But maybe I expect too much.

 

I'm with cct1 on this if there was a problem on the magazines end it would have been much easier to post a little sticky on the website.

 

:eek6::crazy: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...............perhaps in trying to help..............I only caused the **** pot to be stirred.:blush2: Oh Well, drive on soldier.:lol::lol:

Jason

 

Don't feel bad, you asked a valid question. Not your fault that Barry didn't handle it well.

 

minirab

As Scott is saying, you had a valid question. Barry of MC2 is very defensive and blows things out of proportion. My own lack of love for him and his publication didn't help this thread much either. For allowing my own thoughts to cloud my posting judgment I apologize. But, dagnapit, the man just rubs me the wrong way.

 

Barry has a lot of irons in the fire right now. He has been in talks with a new company and doing an article on them, as well as garnering new ads. He should be ready to go to publication any time now.

 

Barry's "irons in the fire" should be the people who subscribe to his magazine, because without them, there would BE no magazine. As a former subscriber and now "outside" observer, it seems to me that he is losing touch with his "people". There is no excuse for empty promises.

 

:cornut: Sounds like problems on both sides of the fence. Y'all ought to get together and work this out as it's been going on way to long. I remember a similar problem between you and Barry back in 08 or 09 when you were at 'Metroplex Mini' in Dallas. The MINI world is too small for this kind of thing. A lot of us like both MA and MC2 magazine and watching from the side lines we're thinking: bury the hatchet guys and drive on.

Jason

 

Not sure why anyone needs to "bury the hatchet" with someone who seems to over react to things not under their control. This issue is with MC2 and not M/A. Nathan doesn't need to apologize for any of the posts here as none of the posts were in violation of the rules here.

 

Mr. Montague has wise words of wisdom!

Life is too short to be mad at people.... " bury the hatchet guys and drive on"

 

Or.....or just drive on!

 

If people don't disagree we would all be clones.


How many people want a fourm full of Dave.0's ....:devil::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

That would overwhelm the ban button....:devil:

 

So I got an email this morning from MC2 magazine promoting the late new issue and within the email was this >>>

" (Thanks for a forum starting a rumour that we were going under. It's truly sad that no one uses the phone to chedck their supposed facts these days! ) "

Well I say its truly sad if you have to time to email the forum owner and wine about people talking about your magazine, but NOT to reply to email from your subscribers! It's 2013 it's all about electronic communication.....

IMHO