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I agree, but I think they are comparing rally cars in this instance.

 

Well, it's clear that I completely misunderstood the OP's rant, and I have to say I'm still a bit confused about what his complaint is......

But for my part, I like my Gen 2 Clubby, I liked my Gen 1 JCW, and I'll probably find plenty to like about the F cars....... and I don't see anyone being forced by anyone to like something. If you like it you buy it, if you don't, you don't. Simple enough, right?

The one complaint I have has to do with the extreme escalation of the price........how come no one complains about THAT?

I mean, $40K plus??????

 

Well I think its because a lot of people lease cars and don't buy them and 40K is cheap for a BMW. People now a days don't buy cars because they don't want to take care of them or pay them off and own a car. Everyone wants a new car ever 2-3 years and car payments forever. :mad2:

I also think that leasing was a big driving factor behind the MINI next program. (Lease returns)

 

Leasing is what you do for a car thats an appliance. I have done it in the past for cars I considered disposable. Then I only paid for what I used and didn't care about the rest. My other cars at the time are what I cared about.

 

My wife leased 2 Audrey's. Not my idea, her's. First one was a good car, but the second was a piece of carp. Had we owned it we'd have lemon lawed it. Trouble was in this state you can't lemon law a lease car. God was I happy when that turd went back to Audrey. Since those were lease cars they were never bonded with like a car guy or car gal bonds with their car. Just a rental transportation device. Never again, Audrey or a lease.

 

I dunno the F56 just looks wrong. I had a R53 for six years and now have

a R58 JCW. If something happened to my R58 I'm not sure I could buy a

new MINI. And I don't feel good about that.

 

This is true & why my wife leased her Audey's. I don't care for leasing, but really don't care if anyone can afford to buy the car they are leasing or not. What does that have to do with the price of donuts? :donut1:

 

Do it, you will be much happier.....

 

We have one of the "worst" Audi's built and sold in this country (at least if you believe the forums), the infamous Allroad with the twin turbo V-6......only problem is, nothing has gone wrong with it in the 10 years we've owned it so far.

And we can't afford to replace it with a similar car - not that they make one anymore. The 2014 Allroad which is built on the A4 platform instead of the A-6 we have now, also has a 4 cylinder engine, and no air suspension and so on and so on, and still costs well over $50K!

For that matter, were I to replace my 2009 Clubby with a new F version, I fully expect the replacement car to cost about $10k more than I paid 5 years ago. That's absurd.....

 

We are heading to Detroit tomorrow, so I'm curious to see the F56 in person. I've heard some feedback from a couple of people and most of the criticism was more related to the interior.

I can honestly say that I don't think I will ever own another MINI as my primary vehicle, but I could see owning a used R50 as a third car. I think the R50/R53 were the best looking hatchbacks.

 

OK, sitting in a bar in Detroit and ready to give a 3 Bear review of the new MINI...

1. JCW looks really good in person. The catfish mouth is even more pronounced and works well. The brushed metal paint looks incredible.

2. The interior looks better across the board. Looks more premium to match the cost of the car. The red Start switch is awesome. May be to much tech in the car.

3. The headlights slope back way to much.

4. In person and looking at the profile of the car, the catfish lips on the S look better than the Justa.

 

I don't think any of the 3 of us are going to run out and buy one, but it looked good in person. We all agreed that final judgement would need to wait until driving it.

 

This picture makes me laugh, but in the 'I feel bad for laughing at the kid who just keeps falling down' kind of way.

 

I agree with the tech nanny statements. This same argument is going on in the aviation realm. Many advocate for airline pilots to go back and fly Piper Cubs, the lowest tech, most basic aircraft. The reason being that with all of the bells and whistles flying the plane, pilots are losing the basic skills. Loss of these skills can be catastrophic when the nanny systems fail and we, as the user, don't react automatically as we would if we had been manually operating the machine.

I don't like the auto park systems. I don't like the auto stop and lane departure systems. I don't like autopilot. These allow us to rely on the computer to 'save us' and we unconsciously devote less mental power to ensuring everything is in check.

I guess at the old age of 32, I just got get these new fangled technologies but that is just me. WALL-E is one of my favorite movies to watch with the kids. It is exactly where society is headed.

 

That is just badass!

 

Clubsport 3 concept.