MINI Challenge w/Speed Ventures 12/5

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  1. Muffy Motorhead

    Muffy Motorhead New Member

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    Hello,

    Wanted to let everyone know that Speed Ventures (Speed Ventures - Track Events for Everyone!) will be hosting a MINI Challenge at Streets of Willow on Saturday, December 5th……..first time for our beloved MINIs.

    For those of you familiar with SV, they currently run a few different challenge series which give drivers the opportunity to compete against their fellow brethren in a time challenge event. During the day, you will have your normal run sessions and your best times from those earlier sessions will determine your starting order in the challenge. Then there will be an additional session later in the day to get two open timed laps to show your stuff. (And no this is not wheel to wheel racing.)

    To sign up for the MINI challenge, make sure to sign up for timing and then indicate “MINI Challenge†in the comments field during the sign up process. For this first event there is no additional charge, just the regular track fees, really a bonus of a couple extra open laps on the track.

    Below is a points system to help differentiate between the street cars and the race cars (even if they still drive them on the street…….we know who you are). Convertibles are allowed.

    Tell you friends, or people you just want to beat at the track.

    Hope to see you there.

    Susan :devil:

    Classification System

    Street Class
    0 to <=5 points

    Modified Class
    5> to <=11 points

    Unlimited Class
    11> points

    AERO
    0.00 = OEM
    0.25 = air dam bumper, any add-on lip, wind deflector
    0.50 = rear diffuser
    1.00 = level 1 wing (add on lip on factory)
    1.50 = level 2 wing (replacement of OEM to large wing)

    TIRE/WHEEL
    0.75 = level 1 street tires (RT615, RS2, MX, CSC3, PS2)
    1.00 = tires 225 or wider
    1.50 = level 2 street tires (Z1, AD07, RE01R, R1R, 595RSR, NT05, RE070)
    2.50 = R-comp (RA1, R888, NT01, A048, PSC)
    3.00 = full slick (Hooser Avon R1)

    POWER
    0.25 = non-oem intake system or any mods to OEM intake (including filter, snorkel, or piping)
    0.25 = non-oem header
    0.25 = cat-back exhaust
    0.50 = pulley
    0.75 = ECU
    0.75 = methanol
    1.50 = engine internal mods
    2.00 = replacement of stock superchager

    SUSPENSION
    0.50 = non coilover using camber plates or non-oem rear arms
    1.00 = non-coilover suspension includes spring or shock replacement
    2.50 = coilover suspension one way adjustable dampening
    3.50 = two way adjustable dampening coilovers

    DRIVETRAIN
    0.50 = gear type LSD includes OBX Quaiffe
    1.00 = clutch type LSD includes OEM

    WEIGHT REDUCTION
    0.25 = passenger seat/rear seat removal
    0.25 = door panel and rear panel removal
    0.50 = heater core DASH MUST REMAIN IN VEHICLE
     
  2. goaljnky

    goaljnky New Member

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    Alright, we have 3 Mini's signed up for this event. We have Muffy in her '04 MCS (she can tell you what she has), Danny from Minicorsa in his beast and yours truly will be running his Justacooper Convertible for the first time ever on an actual track (the cars first time, not mine). The car has done a bunch of Auto-X events, but as we all know track is a different beast all together. Looking at the list of cars signed up I will be running at least half the HP of everyone else out there, so it should be interesting. I will try to post results after the event.
     
  3. Muffy Motorhead

    Muffy Motorhead New Member

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    I think we are up to 5 MINIs now......and counting.

    I will be running the Modified class. Between the wing that will be installed this Friday, the coil-overs and the r-compounds, I am way over 5 points.

    See you all Saturday.
     
  4. skippydog

    skippydog New Member

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    I am going to go and watch. I am going to have to sit on the sidelines on this one due to the fact that I cant swing an oil change a helmet and the entrance fees right by xmas time. Anyone leaving from the oc area?
     
  5. goaljnky

    goaljnky New Member

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    How does that work? Is that for classing only, or do you get a time handicap based on your mods?
     
  6. Johnny_Se7en

    Johnny_Se7en New Member

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    Add up all your mods and that's the class you are in. Wish I could do this event but no budget, next year for sure.
     
  7. goaljnky

    goaljnky New Member

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    TIRE/WHEEL
    0.75 = level 1 street tires (RT615, RS2, MX, CSC3, PS2)
    1.00 = tires 225 or wider
    1.50 = level 2 street tires (Z1, AD07, RE01R, R1R, 595RSR, NT05, RE070)
    2.50 = R-comp (RA1, R888, NT01, A048, PSC)
    3.00 = full slick (Hooser Avon R1)

    So does that mean 225 wide Avons = 4 points?
     
  8. Batrugger

    Batrugger New Member

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    Kelli and I will come on out and cheer you on, but she can't get out on the track yet.
     
  9. goaljnky

    goaljnky New Member

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    w00t!!! Sounds like it will be a gathering.
     
  10. kelly girl

    kelly girl New Member

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    has nothing to do with my MINI :( -- but at least
    in a nuclear fallout bunker, complete with bottle
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    drat!! i'm sorry i have to miss this...
    but then again if Maleficent isn't driving, she won't be need my umbrella services...


    Good Luck to all!!!
     
  11. Mike

    Mike New Member

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    Oh hay, I didn't see this before. I'll plan to show up and say hello.
     
  12. goaljnky

    goaljnky New Member

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    Cool. Looking forward to meeting you.
     
  13. goaljnky

    goaljnky New Member

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    Egguinn down. Clutch blown.
     
  14. goaljnky

    goaljnky New Member

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    I hard day at the track. Cold and windy. But good turn out by the Minis. Both driving and spectating. Thank you all for coming out and supporting.

    Personally, I lost my rear view mirror twice after hitting a dip in a fast chicane. Right strut tower is mushroomed. But worst of all the clutch is gone. Oh well. That just means I need to evaluate this opportunity to upgrade. I will have a more complete story and some pics tomorrow.
     
  15. Mike

    Mike New Member

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    ouch! Yes, sounds like it's upgrade time.

    I showed up at about 9:30 and visited with all the MINI folks. It was great! I'll plan on going to the next MINI challenge, too. BTW, congrats to the winners!
     
  16. goaljnky

    goaljnky New Member

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    I quick preview courtesy of a fellow Mininut, Supergimp. Please visit his Flikr page at Streets of Willow - Dec 5, 2009 - a set on Flickr. He is a good friend, a great guy and his photo skills are not too shaby:

    In the pic. Two cars going in the opposite direction on the same track is not a good thing. Admittedly, I am the one in the wrong. A spin out in the final turn into the main straight left me facing in the wrong direction. Seeing a train of 6 cars coming at you is something that puts a few extra beats into your heart rate. of course judging by the eyes of the drivers of those cars they were not all too happy to see me on their driving line.
    [​IMG]
     
  17. Mike

    Mike New Member

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    So, what tire pressures did you settle on?
     
  18. goaljnky

    goaljnky New Member

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    After we talked, I thought about it some more and dropped to 35 all around. I put my IR temp meter on the tires after the session and only got about 120F. Avon Techs which I was running (as most other slicks) need to be about 170 for their optimal. I think it was a combination of ambient temperature, the fact that Justacooper was just too slow to put the heat into the tires and another fact that Avons historically take longer to heat up. Last time I ran this same set of tires was in much warmer weather on my JCW and they would still take 3-4 laps to get up to temp.

    I did take a look at my time sheet. With all the other things happening, the two session I did run were only 5 laps each and the best time came on the last or next to last lap, which tells me the tires were warming up. I just never got there. I feel confident I could have shaved another 2-3 seconds off once the tires got warm and I got my rhythm down.

    Additionally (and I know every track rat has used this excuse at one time) I intentionally placed myself in a slower group because I was way underpowered. Lets just say every car in my group was at least 250 hp (maybe except for the Dutsun). I regret that decision. While the group was called Intermidate, it was far from so. From constant spin out (6 off road excursions in one session), to not knowing and disregard for flags (one guy actually said "they did not show me the white flag, so I didn't think I had to let anyone pass) and not understanding track rules and etiquette (people doing point by's by moving off racing line or passing under yellow on warm up laps) it was very hard to relax and get into the groove. I would probably have been better off running in a higher group.

    But hey. That's life. To paraphrase, a bad day at a race track beats a good day at work.
     
  19. Batrugger

    Batrugger New Member

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    Sorry I missed you, but we got there about midday. I wanted to say hi.

    Here's what three hundred 300whp does to a pulley:

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Mike

    Mike New Member

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    I saw a lot of that today from the stands, and I muttered something like, "no you idiot, don't DO that" every time.
     

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