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85% of drivers consider themselves above average.

How easy it is to ridicule he who has just made a mistake.

 

The driver in the Mini is completly fine (house mate of mine) and the car has been approved to be repaired. ($9 K +) and it was also driven back to PA. He was not distracted while driving. He just came up to the top of the hill did not see the Nissan Sentra and turned in. Maybe the sun was low or whatever accidents happen.The Driver did get a ticket for not yielding to on comming traffic that he swares he did not ever see. (he did look)

FYI The lady in the Nissan works at Fontana did NOT even touch her brakes and looked like she was speeding. (over 35 mph) But in the end who cares whos fault it was. Everyone is ok and the cars can be fixed.

Also we are making a sticker for the side of his Mini that says "Insert Nissan Here".

 

The way I see it that accident could have happened to anyone. It was a bad spot with terrible lighting. I will not pass judgment on that MINI driver. It was just one of those things.

As they say "there but for the grace of God go I".

Thank God all involved are well.

 

Good grief, a mistake was made and fortunately no one was seriously hurt. The person who made the mistake received a ticket and will have to spend time and money on that along with a nice increase in insurance fees from the ticket and the cost of fixing BOTH cars and any medical expenses along with any possible litigation. Add to that, that he will also be without his car for awhile and I think what happened will be driven home to him sufficiently without catching a bunch of crap on the boards from folks that were not there or involved in the incident... Rest assured Justice is being served.

Please lets give it a rest.....

 

Just heard of this thread, so I have to say my peace:

1. @ KC Jr 54: Hello God, it's me. Oh, it's not God? So you ARE human AND make mistakes???????

2. Yes, we are free to say what we want.

3. We are a community of MINI enthusiasts, we should support one another.

4. I don't think beating someone already down is cool. My friend (yes, he's my friend), has been through enough. He knows he F$@&* up. He's paying his dues. Let's let it go. Everyone's ok.

5. Let's all go forward with more respect with the roads from this. As good a driver as we all think we are, NONE of us is perfect ALL of the time. Period.

 

I thought people would get the hint, I guess not...

It's now closed, locked, stopped, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

 

When I saw the video I was thinking the same thing. The driver probably had the sun in their eyes. Which makes it doubly important to make sure before making the turn.

 

You weren't there, no need to come across like an @ss.

 

No need for any Monday morning QB'ing.

 

Ok KC, I get you're new to MA and making yourself known, I get that.
But try to be a little reasonable, accidents happen, thus the name.
So far you have insulted our forum, our attitude and intelligence as MINI drivers, AND continue to claim that your "intention" is not to do these things. And I'm pretty sure you drive "flat out" on the track.
We really are a friendly bunch, but cut us some slack.
Or go back to the sewing site.
Keep the rubber side down!

 

Yea I never use that entrance, I always go down to the station much better visibility. Even there you have a corner to watch.

Something I learned while riding my motorcycle, always ride/drive like you are invisible, not invincible

 

OK, this stick has been whittled on enough......

 

In driving school, the most often repeated lesson is keep your eyes up. Why? Because you have to unlearn the habit of watching the bumper in front of you. I've seen many many many people succumb to pack mentality, especially on group drives where the skill level varies widely. It's the most important thing to do behind the wheel, and it's the biggest different between drivers with and without performance driving school education.

I was one car behind the camera man, and I thought for sure that somebody was going to be broken; it's a good thing the six-airbagged MINI was the side impact and the older Nissan Sentra was the frontal impact.

 

I'd suggest that whatever tagline is decided upon, perhaps it could be incorporated into the signature graphics that everyone uses. Maybe even a special one that highlights it.

Also, for those of us who lead drives with our clubs throughout the rest of the year, maybe we can include yellow line discipline in our drivers' meetings. I know when I do them I try to cover driving within your limits, not doing things that will reflect badly on the club and/or MINI, and other stuff. Could start to specifically discuss the yellow lines. Maybe the repetition of hearing it over and over will help some.

 

Good to hear, can't hardly believe it is getting fixed the way the side was moved in. Both cars involved did a good job protecting the drivers...

...and this whole incident was an ACCIDENT, pure and simple.

 

While I believe this was an honest mistake, and I am in no way going to cast stones at the driver of the MINI, I wonder if the situation was reversed--ie the Sentra pulled in front of the MINI--if there would be as much sympathy for the Sentra driver...

I have my suspicions...

 

Yeaaaah, exactly. I bet the Sentra driver would be belittled on here beyond anything i might say about the MINI driver. Ive actually seen that conversation before on a MINI forum before...

Crash, i figured anyone actually there would snap into reality for atleast a little while, but peoples reaction here is not the correct one. Making the driver feel any worse then he currently does (only assuming) is not my intention either. It erks be really bad to see people saying "well accidents" happen, and then move on. Watch the video, listen to what happened, realize 'accidents' are never ok, and learn something in the process.

In the real world, WHO CARES about a stupid car, regardless of your attachment to the make and model. Life > car 100% of the time. Someones life WAS put in danger b/c of an careless driver, and IMO that should NEVER be taken lightly.

The video should can also be used as an example as to why super tight kongo like caravan lines that are almost always associated with MINI events are dangerous too. The Sentra driver had zero place to go when it came time, but if cars had been spaced properly she MIGHT have had a chance to swerve. Granted there may have been a situation where people were slowing etc.

Anyways, base point being, just learn a little something from the event, and dont respond with "ohh well, sh*t happens" b/c thats the exact attitude that has people killed while driving.

 

While I am sorry that this accident occurred I am glad that no one was seriously injured.
I am glad to have seen the video.
It made me rethink how I drive while in line on an excursion.
Also, I will approach that entrance into the the Village more cautiously and may choose to avoid using it altogether in the future.
Thanks to the OP for posting and thanks to all for the discussion.

 

Firstly, i do apologize Nathan, as i do have a considerable amount of respect for you. My inability to back down, and stubbornness drives me.

1) I have been apart of this forum much longer then you have. (Notice under your name where it says "Join Date" )

2) This is my site as much as it is yours. (we are entitled to about ohhhhh, zero of it :ihih: ) And i have little interest in NAM, except to sell things, and help the few newcomers that show there w/ questions.

3) If you took my comment in the other thread as insulting your intelligence,...well then, you need to spend more time on your reading skills.

4) The only "claims" i made we directed at the driver of the MINI in the accident.

5) I am as friendly as they come, but i shoot BS down as quickly as it rises up too. "It was an accident, it happens" = BS

6) You are right, accident are just that, but 100% are avoidable. Accidents are NEVER an acceptable event though, and should never be taken lightly regardless of the severity. Thats my point and i think a few people here are taking it to lightly.

7) I never have made claims to have gone to the track, and i even mentioned it in my other thread, but i guess you need to review #3 here.

Again, sorry Nathan, but i got shoved....

 

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