hello to everyone! This is one of the first thread that I write so correct me if I'm wrong . I read on the forum that many of you would like to buy a cooper d in the states... but I wanted to know what you think of the cooper sd. Even in Italy and in Europe they have not sold many ... since I do own a r56 Cooper SD I wanted to know the opinion of overseas' friends, and if you want i could tell you how it drive :wink:
Would be interesting. Back in my VW days, heard they supposedly did a diesel GTI, believe it was called GTD. Would be nice to have a chance to drive an SD.
i think that the SD is fantastic, the engine is the N47 BMW..(the same of 118d, 120d, 320d) i need a diesel because of the cost of the fuel in europe. The consumptions are very low and how ModFather said it have also a powerful torque. You can not drive it like a Cooper S but it's really funny.
I have had an SD for a couple of years now and while the huge torque is nice on the highway, the rev band is still too narrow on winding roads - and the SD has a much wider power band than many diesels. I have found the SD uses 20% less fuel than the justa Cooper I had before and I don't think that's enough to justify it, so I will probably go back to a justa next time (particularly now it's a turbo with more bottom end grunt). The SD probably uses 30% less fuel in the same driving, but then I lose some of that benefit enjoying the big torque. Gatto, one thing to watch out for is that the SD has only the brakes from a Cooper and not the bigger brakes from a Cooper S, so it is easy to make the brakes fail if you drive really hard. Converting to S discs is easy and (fairly) cheap.
are you sure that the SD have the Cooper brakes? i think that are the same of the S... my personal consumption is 15 km/l (it must be 35 mile/gallon) and i drive especially in the city, i think that with a Cooper i would have consumed about 10 km/l (23 mile/gallon)... i do 40000 km per years (about 25000 mile) so the diesel is perfect for me The cooper SD is more powerful than other diesel but i think that 170 hp could be bettere than 143 in spite of this i think it has fantastic torque and in my opinion in uphill mountain roads the SDooper is better than the S... i know that many of you will not agree with me:aureola:
Somebody just needs to find a way to tune the Diesel, and throw a big turbo (at least a 16G) on one... Let that black smoke roll!
A few years ago they were bragging about the MINI Diesel getting close to 70 MPG and begging for them to bring it to the US.. If your getting less then 40 mpg it's not worth it in the US from a cost per gallon, compared to gas, unless it does have a huge Torque advantage....
The story of diesel is one of TQ....not HP... When folks toss numbers around, I remind them a typical 18 wheeler has a 320-360 HP motor pulling a 50,000 lb trailer for a total weight of 80,000 lbs....and driven well, can get about 10 mpg... But needs 9 , 10,13,or even 18 gears to keep it in a 500 rpm tq band.. Typically 1100-1600 on most modern motors....so efficient, but lots of rowing, and not much fun.... Then add to the fact diesel fuel is taxed MORE IN THE US, so it usually costs slightly more than 93....it is not do clean cut a winner....then add lower quality diesel fuel issues in the us...gelling, etc.
Thats what you need for the rat rod/mini. Put the diesel in it with a big exhaust pipe sticking out of the hood. That would be perfect! :devil:
That would be sweet! However just getting the engine/electronics/ other stuff for the swap off of a ONE-D into the states would be near impossible!
Yup for years people have been trying to push Diesel in the US and we don't want it just like the Metric system. :lol:
Certain. Only some very early SD hatchbacks from the first year of SD production (in 2010?) got 294mm Cooper S brakes and all SDs since then have got 280mm Cooper discs. If you drive hard in hilly country, the 280mm discs are not good enough, but if you are mainly in the city, they are OK.