Mini News Most liked posts in thread: Mini Paceman, Coupe/Roadster may not be replaced

Another great plan by BMW/MINI get rid of the two cars that actually look 1/2 decent and make more SUV's. ut:

IDIOTS :mad2::mad5::mad2:

 

We are all just a big dysfunction family. It's all FUN as long as you know I am always right.








Or at least let me think I am. :devil::lol:

 

What does "more relevant to more people" really mean? Does it mean that Mini's are going to get larger and blander to give them broader appeal?
I'd prefer they went smaller (ala R53) and gave them all the All4 option. I'd love an AWD R53!

And on the Mini USA site, the Build Your Own doesn't have an option for a hardtop JCW! What!? Best you can do is a Paceman?

 

I've owned both generations of MINIs, and a classic way back in the day. Never owned one of them for mpg, hated some of the techie stuff of my 03, who the hell really needs power windows in such a small car???
Cars change, get over it. Now my favorite donut has no hole in it...

Mark

 

^^^^ nope, not going to get over it. :devil:

 

Mark/lotsie, love ya man but you know that Dave.O never gets over anything. Just hang a 'like' on him, partially agree enough to let him off of the hook and he'll calm down and be friends again and forgive us for being happy R56 owners.:lol::lol::lol:

Jason

 

Slowly but surely I'm getting them to realize that winning the fight with Dave.O is easy by following these simple rules. What some don't understand is that if one is in trouble and Dave.O is anywhere near, he'll be the first to jump in and help. The Bull in the China Shop does have redeeming characteristics or he's a real character.:lol::lol::lol:

Jason

 

See last line in my post for my reply.

 

I think you are right. I wonder if the coupe/roadster would work better as a JCW only halo car (with more hp/torque than a JCW Hatch, CM, Clubby), maybe even make it RWD. While you are at it, make it a folding hardtop and eliminate the need to have two models.

 

I am not all misty eyed about the R53 because I own one and it is still the best MINI to own. The fact is without the mighty First Gens and their owners you would not have a MINI to buy now.

We are the ones that bought this unique little car because it was "minimal" and FUN. We are also the ones that made this car and brand so successful.
Your welcome, now you all don't have to drive your Honda Accords or Toyota Camry's anymore.

Our cars are NOT just another techie POS that others manufactures are pushing. Our cars are more about the people that bought them and never did we buy the for fuel milage or to be trendy. That's what the masses are doing now as they buy the latest ugly MINI's.

I am very happy I own an R53 the First of the new retro MINI's. I will not be buying another modern one because they are just ugly little BMW's. Just wait until the little "trendy" MINI falls by the wayside and people realize how over priced and non-reliable they are. (ALL things we already know)

 

I see each generation as a progression from what came before. Evolution of a brand is inevitable. Sure some cars had better this or that, but unless we own an auto company we can't really dictate what comes out next. I had an opportunity to check out the F56 at the auto show recently and I like most of what I have seen. I am currently driving a R55 and I really like it. I don't for a moment feel it is not a MINI and certainly as those in my club can tell you, it keeps up nicely with the "track prepared" R53s. After all it's the nut behind the wheel that's most important. (let's not argue wether it is better or not - it suits me and that is what is important)

That being said I am unhappy about the possibility of no Paceman and the 4 door clubby. Just a little more room is handy for us 6'4" types, but a losing the sportiness of the MINI is not what I want. But I won't know for sure how I feel until it is time to upgrade my car and I test drive. Perhaps at that time I will soften to the newer design. Maybe I'll decide a MINI is no longer for me. It's what makes being a car nut fun.

 

The MINI brand is trying to sell a product just like any other business, trying to reach the masses and put the green in their pockets. I am not a huge fan of some of the changes they have come up with, especially because HPR is still lacking. The F56 does IMO look like a carp, I want to draw fins on it every time I see a picture of one, but obviously it is the next step for the MINI brand. Remember the Mustang II? That took a lot of guts to call that thing a Mustang, it has come around though and they even make versions of them now that have some HPR!
The original Mini went through changes, not all very esthetically pleasing but I would jump at the chance (after winning the lottery) to own any of them, they are just cool little cars. Really if you look at it BMW has followed some of the original’s trends, history repeating itself? I am still waiting for an updated Moke to hit the streets!
Thinking any of them are going to be collector items is, IMO wishful thinking. Nothing is worth anything unless someone wants to pay for it. If only a select few are willing to pay the price for it new now, what makes anyone think the masses will grow to pay list or more for it with 2k on the speedo 10 years from now? I don’t see them becoming vintage tin, not in my life time anyway.
IMO a MINI is about seat time. I did not buy mine with the intent of saving gas, as an investment or because it was a bargain. Let’s be honest there are quite a few cars out there that are cheaper, better on gas and with more horsepower than what we purchased off the showroom floor. I am at the age where I wanted something fun, something I could just drive, something I would enjoy getting in to everyday. Not everyone has one. I get a few people every week asking me how the MINI drives and I can honestly say it is the most fun car I have owned.:cornut:

 

A number of months ago I read where MINI might get rid of the coupe/roadster for a closer to real sports car. That would be nice.

I think they should have a convertible hard top to replace the coupe/roadster. One car for both markets. Mazda did it with the Miata with out it being too heavy.

 

Make sense to keep your top three selling models and drop the three lowest selling.

 

I think the coupe/roadster would sell more if they had more power then the Cooper. Give up some room but gain power!! People look at them and their like it's kinda cool but it's not faster/quicker then the regular hardtop and you give up lots of space.

 

Sadly us the ''car nuts'' are the minority in the MINI car buying world. They are selling more cars to the people that just think it's a cute DD. Average age of a mini owner is raising, and with it is the cost and the length of it. I recently tried to find the length of the 1st year clubman compared to the current Cooper hardtop. ( couldn't find it for sure. Found varying numbers ) It has got to be about the same length now. If they drop the coupe they probably won't be making another small car again. At least not anytime soon.

 

Lol wow. Why do you always seem to take the us vs them stance? I appreciate the r53, but owners of it aren't somehow more or an "enthusiast" because they have one. If r56 owners had not bought their MINIs couldn't the argument be made that the r53 didn't do a good job of establishing the brand? IF that did happen I'm sure someone who owned an r53 would argue the r56 wasn't a worthy successor so on, so forth blah blah. If you like Mini/MINI then welcome, but all this chest thumping about the superior model wears thin. Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, but I'd like to think there's enough common ground across the brand for us all to talk about what we like or what we've done to improve our chosen model.

 

^^^^^ does the truth hurt? Stop crying, R56 owners had no choice but to buy that POS because MINI stopped making a good car and went with the cheaper to make poor Prince walnut car. "The turdblow"

How many people traded R56's for used R53? lots and why? Better car all around.

Why us against them? Because most newer MINI owners are bandwagon owners and are only buying the car for gas milage and techie BS. This is not what the original mini and the first gen MINI's are about.

You don't get it and I understand that because you have to own one to know.

 

sadly for you and others I don't think the Coupe/Roadster are going to become collector items any time soon even if they stop making them. Down side to a car they only made a few years will be getting the parts that only it had. ( I'm not sure what all that is or isn't ) Had the car proved to be "special" over a Hardtop I think you may of had better luck with it being worth more in a few years.. It's actually heavier then the hardtop and I as others were very surprised with when it first came out. We all assumed/hoped it would be a few hundred pounds lighter, then maybe it would have better handling then the hardtop which would be it's "nitch"... I have been hoping that my color of Hot Orange that was only made 2 years will be appealing to someone if and or when the day comes I decide to sell it. not that it is really going to be worth any more money though.. If I was trading for a new MINI now it would be a Just-a Coupe which is why I was hoping it would carry over one more Gen model....