Mini News Most liked posts in thread: Mini Paceman, Coupe/Roadster may not be replaced

Yeah some people get it and some people don't.

 

yeah but if they ever meet you then they will understand, a little. Or maybe while at Fontana they will just drive and yell at him for GP (general purpose) like I do.....

 

I always felt MINI missed the boat by not making the coupes roof removable, be it folding or simply unbolting.

BMW/MINI are following the trends of the original Mini. The Pacman & Countryguy are the equivalent of the Landcrab from the olden days.

 

Funny with the title saying one thing and the article saying something else!!! If it goes like what Friedmann says they will be gone along with the Paceman.. That's how I read it atleast.. I was hoping for one more Gen of the Coupe to get the new motor..Assuming it proves relible..

 

That's probably because the JCW version of the F56 isn't coming right away.

 

AWD is usually heavy but Getreg made an AWD R53 back in 06 for testing. Guess the powers that be weren't impressed enough to make it..

 

OK, two things here:
1. I agree with you completely. they make them more bland to appeal to more "BMW-ish" people......window switches moved to door, dinner plate speedo, gone..."who puts a speedometer in the center of a car"?-quoting soccer mom and john q. public on the JD Power survey form :mad2: A/C controls made more ergonomic and no longer in the cool shape of the Mini logo, etc.

2.I totally disagree with your idea to go smaller (ala R53), because I wouldn't be able to fit in it. I would be like driving the clown car from the circus, with my head stuck out the top :biggrin5:

 

I have no objection to trying to sell more cars, comply with safety and environmental regs, boost power and improve efficiency. No sense in getting all misty eyed about the R53, it had its chance and this is business. The brand hopefully will show a renewed R53 like robustness to modifications no matter the size and colors and quantity of accent lighting.

 

Yep every R53 owner was/is an enthusiast, which is why every single one of them is on MA or NAM. Let's be honest and admit that there were many people who bought it because it was cute, fuel efficient, and trendy.

 

That must put me in the minority. I have owned an R50, an R53, an R56 (turbo LCI), and my present R59 Justa-Cooper. I can easily say that my R59 has given me the most all-around fun and satisfaction of any of the four.

I will actually not be all that disappointed if the Roadster is discontinued. I have been seriously considering keeping this one for a while. With the promise of them becoming more rare (and with Chili Red being reserved for special models only), I may have just made up my mind. :aureola:

 

Lol ok dude. Whatever you need to tell yourself. Apparently opinion and "fact" are the same thing in your world.

 

Back to the original topic....

Let's say they do move to the "3 Pillars", would still feel like to many models

Hatchback
- Justa, S, and JCW hardtop
- Justa, S, and JCW vert
- Assuming Justa, S, and JCW 4 door

Justa, S, and JCW CM

Justa, S, and JCW Clubman

The 4 door hatch and new Clubby feel to similar in target market.

 

Maybe they split the two out over different markets?

 

I was just thinking similarly . . . With the short life the roadster would have been they'll become quickly a rare item and kinda precious :cornet:

On the other hand we struggled for 3 years to settle on the roadster as nothing was very exciting to us in the car market. That's when we made the hard decision to get a convertible. This was the best decision we made but there isn't a tone of options out there. We looked at MINI on and off (mostly because of concerns of reliability). My car is due for replacement in a few years. I'm not looking forward to be out of exciting options again
I love my other car and would have even consider keeping it for hauling things around and get a second roadster but this has me hold my breath!

Without any hard plans stated from BMW MINI I wonder how long we have for the roadster to continue to be manufactured??? I can't help but want to stay positive and hope that in a few years market conditions may have changed that they'll be interested in a roadster again... I understand the need for practical cars that house big loads but me and my wife have no interest in large vehicle and I wish marketers were not influencing people so much that practicality is a must over joy. The R59 is really not that extravagante that it should be selling more if only people were brainwashed the other way around

 

Not sure I get your point here . . .

Collector item is rarely something that happens while the car is sold on dealer's lots anyway. No one is going to get anymore money for something that is comparable to a car that was even recently sold. Often you can actually get it for less as they are trying to make room for newer models.

Furthermore I don't see why you keep comparing it to a hard top and hand pick a few performance things as if that's all that matters to an interested buyer.
The roadster is hardly in the same purchase mind set to the hardtop even in a collectors mind. Admittedly, the coupe probably a little closer. Better is just a matter of perspective when you compare the two (roadster vs. hardtop). In 5 years from now it probably won't be all that much more desired than the last production year. But once a few years has past after that and a good percentage of those cars have disappeared in the oblivion of car dumps than I would think a well maintained more rare MINI roadster could fetch good money. With the hardtop in comparison you will still have a plethora of them available even in 15 years from now with a lot more choice in yrs and trim levels.

What will decide its fate as a collectable I think has more to do with what BMW MINI will do next as far as roadster like cars are concerned.
If they come up with something else to fill the hole than it's likely that it will take a lot of time to become that "special" car. If they don't do that it could be a lot sooner I think.
Look at it this way, if the life of MINI roadster is limited to let say 5 production yrs and BMW MINI abandon making any thing like it, these 5 yrs will be the only roadsters MINI ever made. I think that would be worth something to some people.

Either way It's just a point of view that only time will tell of that I am certain, and I don't care about that all that much anyway right now. It's way too premature and i just enjoy ours so much to think of letting it go

 

Roadster or Coupe shouldn't have a hard time to find parts since they derived from the R56.

 

Yup it does not need more power it just needs to be A LOT lighter with less comfort features.

 

This is what I was thinking back in post #9

 

I like my Coupe because it is different. I drive this one way less than my previous two hardtops because my job has changed from driving everyday to flying everyday. While I still enjoy the two seater, I'm not sure I would still like it if I were driving it 50,000 miles per year like I used to compared to the 10,000 per year I drive now.