yellowbritishrocket - but the motors internals are different than the JCW so its like modding an S with JCW parts the heart is different! I take it you really don't like the GP2s!? So why not get out of this area about the GP2s and let it be, good grief!
Sorry but the new GP 's are a very weak example of a "special or limited" car. They used the "one off" uniqueness of the original GP to sucker people into buying a stock JCW with extra stickers, coil overs and crap DOT track tires. I do like the brakes. Hahahahahaha
i went back and read that introduction announcement they put out for this car a few months ago and was amusing how much mini tried to use technical jargon to make a bog standard N18 JCW sound special...i suppose this is the factories attempt to mod a JCW into a GP
I understand what your saying yellow and Dave O. Quoting another GP owner. "Good point regarding some of the performance numbers, however you can absolutely feel a difference on the road, the extra 'oomph' isn't limited to the track. " My wife has a JCW Roadster and I had a Clubman S and the GP is totally a different cars from either of those cars. Y'all can keep hating but the GP puts a smile on my face daily and I haven't ran it up over 4k rpms yet!
its a bog standard N18 JCW motor with the European Tune...thats all it is...nowhere in the introduction letter MINI put out talking about the specs that the engine was redone...like i said it was a jargon filled ramble talking about the stock engine...even motoringfile pointed that out...and if you read some of my other rants about the 2nd gen special editions...its been pretty much the same...lack of creativity and a general laziness...plus...i think all of the colors that mini has used for their special editions have ended up being available for any MINI the next model year
I went back and read some of your rants and the article. Y'all right just a 56 with stickers, nothing else! But if this is the MF article on the GP you are referring to then I must be confused. http://www.motoringfile.com/2012/11/09/motoringfile-first-drive-2013-mini-jcw-gp/
"If you read between the lines of what MINI is telling us, it would seem that dramatic power increases in the JCW power plant were simply off the table. The GP is equipped with the same 1.6L engine found in the standard JCW cars save for the Countryman. MINI massaged the engine electronically to increase power from 208 to 218 in most markets. However in the US, thanks to potential homologation costs for such short production run, the output is only bumped to 211. This gives the GP 0-60 times of around six seconds. The fastest MINI yet but clearly not at the upper echelon of mid-priced performance cars. So without a significant power increase, what is the measure of performance? Simple. The ‘Ring. The benchmark became to create a new GP that was dramatically faster around the Nurburgring Nordschleif, but with only a modest power bump." Electronically increased to 211 hp....aka Euro Tune
So why don't you call MINIUSA and MINI to let them know how you feel. I agree they talked it up and did not come thru. I am sure they are not the only auto maker that does it. I doubt MINI ever will really bump the hp like we would like them too. But so far I really like my GP!
I own a 2006 GP and had a 2009 FJCW, a month ago I looked at ordering another FJCW and with everything I wanted it was stickered out at $47k… I ended up trading the 09 for the GP2 and saved 7 thousand dollars and it is absolutely an awesome car. Did I really need all that other stuff, NO… I just don’t know why everyone talks so badly about the GP2. People buy what they want and if you don’t like it then good for you and buy something else. Like I said, I have the 06 and the 13 and they are both fantastic cars…. OK, I don’t have nav, MINI connect, cruise or radio controls but I don’t really care. I love everything about the GP2 and it gets thumbs up everywhere I go. Both MINIs are my weekend cars and I want a driver’s car and that’s what the GP2 is in my opinion. I could have easily ordered the FJCW but chose not to. I will say I had my own terrible thoughts about the GP2 when it came out since I own the original but after driving it I wouldn’t have it any other way… in 5yrs a $47 FJCW with be worth whatever the market value is, probably $15-$18k and the GP2 will be worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it and that will be way more than a FJCW…. Go drive one and see for yourself…. The GP went up 9k in 6 years, it’s called inflation…. Motor on folks.............
I wouldn't mind having one of those key chains but I'm guessing they were for pre-orders and not off the lot purchases. Ps: I de-stickered my GP2 and have no regrets about it!
:cornut: Agree, you need to take one out. I have been a naysayer since they brought up bringing out the R56 GP, mainly because I am a little partial to the R53 GP. I was sure they had individuals out there reading forums getting the pulse of the MINI community then they put the R56 GP on the street. They missed all the main complaints from the R53 GP, number one being power. I was lucky enough to have the opportunity to take a R56 GP “around the parking lot” during MINIPalooza this year, thanks FlynScot0256. I only took two laps but the down and dirty: nice comfy seats, quick (In GP Mode) and great brakes! I am not a great fan of the fact that R56 GP parts are available to everyone. A lot of people don’t think the R53 GP is all that special but they get pretty ticked off when you won’t give them your vin so they can order parts. As far as the return on a GP, unless it is a hanger queen and even then it will only be worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I have seen people asking more for FJCWs than GPs and getting it. The GP is never going to be in the category of a Plymouth Superbird or a Mustang Shelby GT500. The grandson has dibs on it so selling it is out of the question. Until then it will continue to be my DL.:cornut:, Oh yea, I am still partial to the R53 GP!