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  1. Spa2k

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    #2 Spa2k, Oct 22, 2014
    Oops, BMW got caught again. The EPA is on the warpath - more manufacturers will get slapped down soon.
     
  2. Dave.0

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    #4 Dave.0, Oct 22, 2014
    :lol: BMW Fail. :lol:
     
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    #6 Nathan, Oct 22, 2014
    Before we all run to put a stake in the heart of BMW here there are mitigating circumstances.

    EPA is in the process of changing how the testing is accomplished.

    Source - EPA Revising Fuel Economy Testing Before the End of the Year – Insider Car News

    I'm not going to say BMW is innocent. I am going to say there are contributing factors. Enough of them in my book that the bus tossing under is only the short bus here.
     
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    #8 Spa2k, Oct 22, 2014
    This is just the beginning of another effort by the EPA to save us all. This year, Ford, BMW, Mercedes and MINI have been audited for their interpretation of some pretty open testing rules. Having been to one of the testing facilities (and knowing how the federal government, uh, works), :crazy: I would be hard-pressed to say this is the fault of the manufacturers. Their biggest problem is public relations and having their new, lower numbers compared to the numbers of their yet-to-be-audited competitors.
     
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    #11 Crashton, Oct 23, 2014
    Call me cynical.... You my friend are cynical, but I agree with you. Call me cynical too.... :D
     
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    #3 ZippyNH, Oct 22, 2014
    Wonder if all the 2014 owners will get a check....
    With the low fuel prices right now...and dropping, I bet in a month or two owners will get a check like Hyundai, Ford, etc....
    Usually only a small difference ....pays for the "estimated" fuel consumption difference for the first few years....
     
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    #5 Crashton, Oct 22, 2014
    Looks like BMW stepped on their .... here. Can't say I'm sorry to see them get caught cheating. Hope this costs them a bit they deserve some puni$hment.

    I'm guessing this is why the 2015's were held in port. :)
     
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    #7 Firebro17, Oct 22, 2014
    ^^^......... :beer
     
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    #9 Savvy, Oct 23, 2014
    It's exactly why the cars were held in port. And why dealers couldn't sell the meager inventory they had on their lots.
     
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    #10 ZippyNH, Oct 23, 2014
    Remember....you are talking about BMW here's a multinational corporation with TEAMS of lawyers and engineers....
    If they could find a way to make the car look better, I'm sure they did...
    You know, the baseball, aka Alex..a-rod defense, "everybody was doing it"...
    BMW imo did not have a WHOOPSIE, but a calculated risk to make more $$$$ and sell more cars with better numbers....
    Anything else implies they are incompetant, either at building cars or watching bout for their shareholders. Period.
    Call me cynical....
    But them waiting till most orgional owners had either lost paper work or moved on with the gen1 PS pump shows they know how to calculate numbers...same for timing chains...nothing is not calculated...just like a 5¢ switch at gm that killed folks...