Sad thing...after having read this thread, is that this type of thing is done in many different industries.... In aviation, many folks work for free, or nearly so, "paying their dues" or blatently getting taken advantage of, while a few profit off their dreams and skills... Sure we all pay "dues" in certain industries, but those who promise more, then fail to deliver are 1) at best extrodnarily poor buisniness owners... 2) at worst a thief.... Usually IMO the truth is Usually somewhere in the middle.... But in ANY CASE, the word should be spread!!! Nobody is perfect, and when honest mistakes happen, honest folks do the "right" thing, and do their best to pay or make a payment plan, or cease operations.... In this case, I view it as a small pyramid scheme.... Sell some subscriptions, get some $$, sell some advertising...make a few copies with free/stolen stories....their friends join...cycle continues...with some $$ getting skimmed off each time.... A poorly run hobby...perhaps...but the length of the operation tells me more...and the slow windown of the issues..... Sure it might be more hobby time, blood, sweat, and tears than a ongoing magazine....run out of a shoebox....but when an individual calls on others to HIDE THEIR ACTIONS and SUPRESS info and delete posts that could have prevented others from getting ripped off... THAT IS CRIMINAL. Hope those involved know that..... Ethically and morally it is wrong....and deleting posts in a group is a VERY SLIPPERY slope LEGALLY...AND it lt makes the editor libel.... 100% thumbs up to Nathan for taking the high road, and doing the right thing IMO, both in operation of this site, and other matters as they have come up!! May you Karmha be paid back in dpades!! Mr Barry, and his associates....not so much...your editing may have caused others to make descesions that changed their lives in a bad way.....building a portfolio is one thing... Giving stuff away is another when those involved have no intention of paying. nuff said...end the rant-omatic!!
Yeah but if the paper in the magazine was perforated and a bit softer, the third thing on your list would be taken care of. I got the email a few days ago, almost posted it here, but I'm lazy--it was good for a laugh for the day. I think we all should donate--if he can get the hundred and fifty grand, he'll probably buy a Porsche and leave the MINI world altogether. IMHO, 150,000K is a reasonable sum for THAT outcome....
Hmm.... I have a rich uncle in Nigeria that wants to give me a few Million dollars in cash... I just have to pay the taxes.....:idea: Naw...I'll just wait for hyper inflation to set in....then I'll be able to buy it with my spare-change from under my MINI's seat!!
Ok can we just call Barry from MC2 Bawwy and not bring shame to Snooters real name. Mr. MOTD deserves that respect for his name.
Wow, we must be related--I have that very same uncle, and none of us in our family new we were part Nigerian, we always thought both sides of our family emigrated from Germany, go figure....
One can only hope that $150K will pay for one hell of an educational grammar class and some lovely take-away spell check software.
For Bawwy ...... Please he would just put it in his pocket and go far far away. Well one can only hope.
That was about as optimistic as I could get. Sorry. I'm trying to quit smoking. It's sapped the pessimism out of me.
With $150k he might move onto the 911 crowd..... or maybe just buy a fleet of small turbo fords and start over....They seem to be the next big... Er...smaller thing for many mini folks....
It's a shame you felt you had to edit this. I'm going to guess that there was threat of legal action if it was not removed.
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hm looks like the price for MA went up, last i herd it was 120. Still not worth it to me. its not my fault you keep having problems with your french connection.