TFFY. Unless you only have one. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Someone has to do the heavy lifting unless/until Dave gets back...
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FINALY! A tread that's FUN! It's been a little bland around here.!
Now admit it ain't you all having fun?
Now where are my MOTOR ON stickers-
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I like poking fun at the R56 but poking fun at the F56 is like shooting fish in a barrel, come to think of it they look like catfish.:smilewinkgrin:
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Yeah I know how you feel about the looks, but more than once you've stated you were tired of the it's the car not the driver line...Yes, it's been overused, but it is how I honestly feel about it.
As for the "kinda", that was spin control, just trying to help you out. Besides, the threats of physical violence were greatly exaggerated, most of them, if not all of them, were either physiologically or anatomically impossible.-
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Back to the first discussion, I would like to give my point of view as a 20 years old guy.
As a business student I completely understand what BMW is doing with this new generation of MINIs. Companies no matter what business they are in, the only interest they have is increase benefits, I guess here we all know that. MINI, the brand, needed to find a new niche and the F56 was the pathway to that.
I'm in love with some models of MINIs, including my R53. I have driven all the generations of the modern MINI and guess what, fist and second are very similar, when it comes to the third is all about comfort and handling. Nowadays the cars are big laptops, you cannot feel the same and this is sad.
Despite my thoughts of the F56 being "different", mainly the front of the car, I think they did a good job with the JCW. Nowadays, I won't have a F56 in my garage, but a R53, R56 and a pure little classic... SURE!
I had a Renault Clio Sport 2002, and talking about feeling the car it is even better than the R53.
I hope you can understand my English, have a good evening guys!
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This is my first post, and maybe my last. Heard about this place over on NAM. The word is it was supposed to be a better place. Im kinda doubting it. I go by the same username there. Anyone want to see my F56, pics are over there in the F56 forum and the BRG thread. Im not going to wast time posting them here.
I read a couple threads, then stumbled across this one. Im going to be using the quote below to make my point with in a moment. I didnt read this entire thread. I read the first couple pages, then read a post here and there.
Im not going to try and make nice with you guys. You come across as a bunch of [edited, BT}, so I dont really care what you think about my post, or me, or my car.
I am a Mustang guy. I grew up in a 65. same year as I was born. My dad bought it new, and still owns it. In 67 Mustangs got bigger, and in '71 they REALLY changed. In 74 they werent even a mustang anymore. In 79 they became something else again, and again in 94. Finally in 05 they became a Mustang again, and now it is an Aston Martin.
So you really hate the F56 and think they arent a real MINI?
Well, I love the **** out of mine. I am glad I bought it, and I think the OP is full of ****. The F56 is a great car. And it handles great. Is it a little bigger than the first Gen? Ya, its a couple INCHES bigger. But you know what? ALL cars are bigger than they used to be. Look at the newest mustang compared to the 2005. Look at the new F150 compared to a 77. Look at the new Ford Taurus compared to a 2002. Look at the Porsche 911 compared to a 70s version. Look at ANY current model car(excluding the chevy Impala:winkcomparing it to a previous model, and its gotten bigger.
Why?
Its because of Govt. mandated safety.
Now lets get back to the MINI. The first gen mini is bigger than the original by a much bigger margin than the 3rd is to the first.
So all you fist gen guys should really get over yourselves.
About me and why I chose to buy a 2016 Mini Cooper S
I always liked Minis. I thought they were neat. I am an automotive enthusiast. Not just one generation of one brands model. I am an enthusiast of almost all cars, trucks, and motorcycles.
I have owned a 74 SS Nova, a hotrodded 66 Dodge Coronet, a built 79 Z28, a CJ5 Jeep, a Grand National, a couple Hemi Dodge P/Us/ a couple Diesel P/Us, sportbikes, Japanese cruisers, and a Harley. Just to name a few.
And now I own a Mini.
How many of you arrogant first gen guys can say that?
I might of owned one sooner, but I didnt figure this 6'2" 270lb guy would fit in one. Till a few weeks back that is.
Our local news channel runs a segment on Sunday morning at 9 where they highlight a car. A couple months ago they highlighted a mini coupe. They showed the car, and the news anchor who was 6'3" got in it................ and fit..................... So I told my wife wed check them out. And we did. And we researched them. And we bought one......................
AND WE LOVE IT!!!!!
So much so that we are planning on getting another for her in a few years.
It runs, drives, rides, handles, GREAT!!!!
And until I saw the 3 generations together like in the pic above, I couldnt tell the difference. I didnt know there was one.
Yes, now I do. And there are things about the earlier Generations I like better, Like the tailights, but there are things about mine I like better, like how Mini incorporated a good sized intercooler into the front with barely much change to the front.
Ya, thats right. I said I like the way the front end looks.
And the interior, and the SEATS. The most comfortable seats I have ever sat in. I LOVE EM!!!!
Ya, I wish theyd left the window toggles in the middle, and I wish they would have kept the center speedo. But times change, and NAV and back up cameras are here. And back up cameras may soon be mandated. So I think MINI did a good job of incorporating them. And I like my Nav and Radio so its all good. Im running my iPhone through my stereo. ITS GREAT!!
Hopefully Ill be going to my first MINI gathering in Scottsdale this weekend.
Im planning on it, I just dont know now, my wife, who has cancer, has gotten a cold. So I dunno now. But Im hoping. Im also hoping that the guys in the Mini club arent like you guys. But if they are, well Ill just jump in my MINI and drive off and let them wallow in their miserable existence.
I sure hope thay arent like you guys.
{edit} I have edited this post. I used some fairly strong language and upon reflection didnt think it was warranted. I apologize to those who saw it.
I tend to drop a nuke when a .45 will do.-
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Welcome to MA. I hope your wife gets better.
Do hang around this is a good place where we are allowed to share what we think. I will not rehash all that has been sead about the F cars. You are coming in on a bigger discussion on the direction BMW has taken. I don't agree with everyone nore does everyone agree with me. Simply stated I do not agree with the direction BMW is taking MINI. It has nothing to do regulations. But I will not go back into detail, I will just start channeling Dave.0.
Don't be quick to judge-
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And when classic Mini owners made exactly the same complaints about the R50/53, that was just sour grapes, right? But making those complaints about the F56 isn't.
Not believing you have become an old fart is one of the signs that you have become an old fart.-
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I don't think we'll be seeing Blues Traveller again.
After posting once here after only really looking at part of one thread that person has seemingly made up his mind and judged the entire lot of us for only parts of one thread.
On NAM from same username.
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And before you will be admitted into "Vendor Alley", you need to make two runs through the car wash... "You", not the MINI....
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Stick around for awhile, we make fun of skinny people, and short people don't stand a chance. They really have no reason to live, Randy Newman said so, so it must be true.
It does not bother me one iota if someone doesn't like the R53. I get why someone might not like it, not a big deal.
I'm not a huge fan of the R56, but there are a number of R56 owners here that are pretty damned cool and are as much of the community as any of us R53 owners, even if they bought the wrong car. I suspect it'll be the same with many of the new F56 owners. In other words, wether you like all generations, or only one specific generation, it has no bearing on being part of the community. Some things you just have to agree to disagree on and move on. Personally I'm at a point where I'm more disappointed with the direction BMW is going with the entire MINI brand than I am with any single model, even though I understand why they're doing it. Just my .02.-
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Yeah, prejudice against skinny people is just wrong - they probably can't help themselves and have a defective gene or something. Some may even be just 'small-boned'. We just have to hope for a cure in the future.
I do wave at all other Minis - though, obviously not if they don't have headlamp eyelashes. I mean, if they don't even respect themselves enough to look their best, it's doing them no favors to suggest they fit in anywhere but the dog pound.
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That being said, the F56 is a much easier car for the majority of the populace to deal with on a daily basis, and MINI still lets you build them the way you want, thankfully.-
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I've been reading that the sport suspension in not an option on the 2016, but haven't confirmed it. I do have the sport suspension on my car and it handles every bit as well as my '07 with the JCW (sport) suspension. I still need/want to upgrade my RSB and possibly a set of Cravenspeed or NM springs. As far as turbo noise, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Can't hear mine even with the Cravenspeed intake. As far as the center instrument, the only time I looked at it on my '07 was to check the gas gauge. I find the info on said center display much more useful than the speedo the retro styling not withstanding. I can take or leave the "disco" ring. I miss do the window switches in the center stack though.
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