Engine Drivetrain 1st Gen Cooper S Most liked posts in thread: Mynes tuned....is yours? Mine's broke!

Its your tone, and if your going to carry on with this crap, get lost

 

100k is just broken in and nice and loose to make good power. I could start a pretty long list of 100k motors I've used in race cars. Hell my Mini had 103k on the motor when we started Time Trialing it. Now granted it's not ideal but when your on your own nickel and that's what they got at the junk yard beggers can't be choosers.

Anyway moral of the story.... I wouldn't worry about an 85k motor. If the maintenance hasn't been kept up on it's gonna spin a bearing before it melts a piston.

I'm starting to get annoyed at people coming in and telling me they are gonna trade their car in cause it has 50-60-70k miles on it and it's getting old. I have multiple cars (not mini's, highest Mini I've seen was in the mid to high 200k range) that come in here with between 500,000-800,000 miles on the original motors.

 

Just a friendly reminder to keep it civil as M/A is the friendly MINI community.

Disagreement is great, name calling, hair pulling and general mayhem not so much.

Not that we have slipped there, just a proactive reminder to be sure we don't.

 

Lynn I think its not the problem of swapping the block it was the problem of being told it was sleeved and being charged for it only to find out that was not the case

 

HAHAHAHAHA Lynn you bringing up the phrase "witch hunt" kind of funny IMO.

How long have you been on your Witch Hunt?

Oh and as for your opinion, here is a News Flash "most people dont care."

 

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There are always 2 sides to a story. People have to decide for themselves.

 

Again, this is NOT a tuner A vs tuner B thread and comments to suggest that it is are way off base.

There are some out there that will try to make it as so but it is not. If your tactic is to keep on that path to get this thread locked it will not happen. What will happen is that others will see just how petty you really are.

 

Good story bro...but again it has nothing to do with what happened here. The attempts here to make the OP out to be the bad guy by the tuner & his "hitmen" clearly sent to troll this thread seems to be par for the course.

The incoherent & barely readable "explanation" given by the tuner doesn't exactly answer the questions raised by the OP, IMO.

 

Well bro....when the OP said this in the very first post,

"To conclude I put a lot into my car I feel sorry for those who have bought or done business with Mynes Performance/Myne’s Tuning/Bytetronik or ABF Performance. If you have been tuned by Mynes or through bytetronik you better save up for a new motor because your going to be needing one.

I encourage anyone who has had issues of any degree when dealing with Mynes or ABF Performance to come forward. All this keeping quiet is for the birds anymore. Something needs to be done. No one should be silent any longer."


He completely opened this thread to anyone who has had any dealings with Mynes. And I think you need to reread Jays post again, as it seems that the OP did flog his car after he knew of potential problems. Again I will say, it is a major bummer what happened to him, but it does seem some of this could have been prevented with some common sense and restraint.

 

Honestly, I can't believe you all are not tired of all this drama. As a moderator I have to read all this crap and at this point it puts me to sleep faster than when my wife tries to explain to me the European tax laws.

 

I have backed no one in this (yet). Some that think this should please re-read my posts here on this thread.

I do find it highly amusing reading posts responses qualifying my Automotive mechanic abilities.....again...? LOL
I doubt there is a technical post by me anywhere inaccurate of its content? Even with the many alias I have on different forums. LOL
And working many MINI"s over the years since 2002 not ONE person has ever had ANY problems with any work performed by me ever.

Personally I will say that I have used and helped a few with Bytetronik's and have had NO problems with it what-so ever. But then working with an accomplished ECU/EFI Calibrator (G Banish) and not information drawn from untrained individuals I have learned what not to do with regards to a calibration within my current un-trained limits. In part it is why I no longer support any aspect of ECU/EFI Calibration unless the individuals have either combined Electrical and or Computer Engineering training along with some practical automotive mechanical training or actual ECU/ECI Calibration training and Certification.
This is all on this I will talk about because the defensive responses will be endless.




As far as this thread goes :
I do find amazingly strange that the request for the specific additional pictures and mileage timeline gets ignored while the cam request pictures got posted so fast?
They are "great" pictures and tell a littler more to the story. :wink:

There is as some have said two sides to every story and then there is the evidence of the engine and the parts. Sharing more pictures answering specific questions about how the engine was running with some form of empirical data or documented monitor observed conditions and less speculation will tell more of what went wrong with that "beast".


I have a great thread I started here on MA which talks about things to do and watch for before doing engine mods and increasing power levels.

MINI Parts upgrades THINK
http://www.motoringalliance.com/forums/mini-stuff/3901-mini-parts-upgrades-think.html

 

Correction, 3 sides to every story.... Yours, mine and the truth..... Just sayin

We now return to your regularly scheduled bickering.

 

I'm tryng to figure out why some keep bringing up Jan/RMW and his products in this thread when not one RMW product was on Alex's motor and Jan had never tuned or touched his car... :crazy:

The only reason could be that the vendors in question want to blame Jan for the OP's being understandably angry about his situation instead of what really has occurred....:mad5: Whatever that might be.

Just for clarity: Jan/RMW had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH Alex's car, and no RMW products were on his car. :nonod:

So please let's keep this between the parties and products that were actually involved.

....of course maybe Jack Rousch or Carol Shelby are at fault...they have and do make go fast stuff too.. LOL

 

The Sprintex mess is not part of this thread. Lets leave it out please.

 

Quoting an absolutely useless post in this thread that does nothing to further the conversation.

Plus is a personal attack too...

Strike 1

 

I am a Mynes customer and have been happy with what I have gotten. Having seen the pictures and the limited technical discussion here I have some concerns as anyone would. I understand that Camaro is out of town. Thank you for your offer to post additional pictures. The pictures of the piston or pistons show a lot of carbon build up. That could be the result of running the engine for a long time after it went bad. I would like to see evidence of the engine running lean and causing the problem. The first motor certainly showed evidence of detonation. To be specific can you post pictures of the following: The top of the pistons with the carbon scraped off? I would think if the tune caused the problem we would see some area of the piston that had been eaten away. Can you measure the clearance of the rings in the ring groove? If the engine was detonating the ring lands should have been hammered. Can you take pictures of the top face and bottom of the top compression rings? Detonation will often damage the piston ring. I would expect that the plugs are as covered in oil (carbon) as the pistons, but plugs are generally the first to show a problem. Can you chemically clean the plugs and show some pictures? This might or might not show the detonation after cleaning. Detonation should leave aluminum (piston and or head) on the porcelain. A picture of the head would be great as well. I would expect if detonation caused the problem to see aluminum eaten away from the quench area. The other area I would like to see if possible would be pictures of the valves out of the head. We should be able to see the valves were very hot (blue) if there was much detonation. I have to say that I am not sure the tune was the problem. From what I see and that is very limited, I do not see a lot of heat problems. If I was speculating, and that is all I can do with limited information I would look at the valve guides, especially the ones where the cam lobs failed.

 

Knowledge is power. I find this thread very enlightening in many ways & I've learned a few things.

 

The perpetuation of this thread is to find the truth as we have two different views on the OP situation. This in not the NAM (Thank GOD) so you just cant have people banned for expressing different opions for no reason.

Please lets stay on topic (as Nathan said above) and if you have nothing to add just sit on the sidelines with your 2 cents.

 

Just my opinion

I'd have to respectfully disagree with this. ^

Any engine work I have ever had done listed every single thing done & every part used down to the last left handed whitworth widget. IMHO any reputable builder, machine shop or tuner who does not list all things is either sloppy or maybe padding the bill.

Disclaimer: I know nothing of the builder/builder's of the melted engine in this thread. These are just my thoughts on what I would expect from a reputable builder, shop or tuner.

Back on topic..... M/A's longest thread opcorn:

 

Thanks. I needed the laugh.

I know you & your benefactors would like this all to go away, but the builders & tuners clearly had quite a bit of time to resolve this with the OP before it become a public airing of laundry (from what I understand, admittedly).

I've quoted myself & bolded the appropriate part for you. As you can see, that statement is clearly MY opinion. One to which I'm as entitled as anybody else here to make.