Brakes Wheels 1st Gen Tires Need: 12 X 1.5 Black lug bolts long enough for 5mm spacers

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  1. mini_racer

    mini_racer Well-Known Member

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    #21 mini_racer, Feb 26, 2011
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    I like the Turner bullet nose, but 75mm is really long. The TSW 65mm studs seem to be a more appropriate size for my needs, but alas the nose design is not as nice.

    I am not sure I see the great need for the splined nuts though, stronger maybe? I would think a hex nut of 17mm or better 19mm should be fine, speaking of which, anyone have any experience with these from 949?
    Black Forged Alloy Lug Nuts
    They do seem to be a little long though.
     
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    #22 Nitrominis, Feb 26, 2011
    No I have never seen them myself, but I really like that you have more "beef" to the nut!
     
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    #23 minimark, Feb 26, 2011
    Those look pretty cool!

    The TSWs have worked great for me and they have held up really well. The Turners are good too and don't think you would be going wrong with either one, both have a very good track record...

    No pun intended... :)
     
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    #24 mini_racer, Feb 26, 2011
    The Turner studs look to be the same studs sold on the Madness site and they aint cheap there either.

    Comparing the two from the pic above, it appears as though the TSW has the same number of threads as the Turner and is shorter only due to the Turner bullet nose extension. Also, I can't find any nuts on the WMW site, but maybe I am just doing it wrong.
     
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    #25 Jan, Feb 26, 2011
    don't be cheap terry..............your life rides on the wheels staying on the car........
     
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    #26 quikmni, Feb 26, 2011
    One thing to think about when deciding to go to studs is the length of the stud compared to your wheel, rotor, and spacer thickness. If just using a 5mm spacer the TSW studs will stick out past the lug nut by about 10mm. I do not like the look of the stud sticking out past the nut. With 15mm spacers the end of the stud is just about even with the top of the lug nut.
     
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    #27 howsoonisnow1985, Feb 27, 2011
    Studs

    Here is some pics of TSW studs with 5mm H&R spacers
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    Btw the oem lugs fit with the 5mm spacers no probs.
     
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    #28 mini_racer, Feb 27, 2011
    Thanks for the pics, and yeah they do stick out a little.
    I am sure the OEM lugs can actually screw in, but the concern is whether or not there is full thread contact, and therefore maximum strength. I would think the wheel thickness in the hub area has a role to play, and that will vary wheel to wheel.
     
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    #29 agranger, Mar 2, 2011
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    Pics of the turner studs on Web Spokes on my '06 MCS. Muteki nuts.

    If you have the option w/ the Muteki nuts, get an extra adaptor tool (key). They are weak and will eventually split at the worst possible time, leaving you stuck with a flat tire on your car. It's a standard size/shape, so I bought a cheap $15 set of nuts at my local AutoZone and threw the nuts away so I could have a new key. Also... the key doesn't fit the factory lug wrench, so you will need to get another (I got a 10" breaker bar and a socket to fit which rides in my jack bag in the boot with the key).

    Also... I ordered 2 extra studs and they ride around in my jack bag as well... just incase something happens to one/two of 'em (ex: I'm on a road trip and some remote tire shop screws 'em up), I'll be prepared. I think I still have 1 or 2 of the stock lug bolts running around in that bag as well... just in case, but I'm a Boy Scout when it comes to being prepared.


    3mm spacer up front
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    No spacer in the back
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    When I put my track 16" wheels on, I go to a 10mm spacer up front and move the 3mm to the back.
     
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